THIS $300 TEST COULD STOP YOU FROM PASSING TOXINS TO YOUR KIDS — A DENTIST SPILLS

Opening Breathwork And The Big Why

SPEAKER_02 0:00

Well, before I get started, I always start with a few breaths. So I put on one hand on my heart, one hand on my belly, and we can just take a collective breath. So in through the nose. And a long exhale through the mouth. We'll do that a few more times. Inhale. And a long exhale. Inhale, solely through the nose. Inhale for four. And a long exhale through the nose for five. Well, thank you for joining me with this breath because I feel it just kind of gets us right away in a heart coherence. As I know we're going to dive into and cover so much together. And I'm so honored to have you on today, Dr. Gandhi. It was such an honor to meet you in cons. And there's no coincidence that we met there, that I know we had started talking, and I think we could have talked for hours.

SPEAKER_00 1:12

I agree. Yeah, there's no coincidence. We definitely met for a reason.

SPEAKER_02 1:16

Yeah, so I

Neurological Red Flags In A Busy Dentist

SPEAKER_02 1:18

uh I want to dive right in. I want to dive right in and hear more about you almost died twice. And I truly deeply feel this is the big why my husband died. The mercury poisoning, the toxic load in his body. And I think I need to hear more stories like yours from dentists to encourage other dentists to do a test that is probably under $300 to really see where they're at. So I'd love to talk about years before you found out you had mercury poisoning, what were those quiet whispers that your body was showing signs? I want to know what are those little signs in your body.

SPEAKER_00 2:07

Yeah. Yeah, sorry to hear about your husband. I mean, when you told me, I was like, oh my God. You know, it it's the it's the craziest thing because we see it so often in our community. And sometimes it's too late to help a person, you know. And that's like your mission and my mission align. Like I want to make sure dentists are detoxing themselves, especially we're helping patients detox, but we're not doing it ourselves. So we're causing more harm. And, you know, we we got to take care of ourselves first. And that's the that's the biggest um point I want to get across to a lot of dentists. And that's why I always talk about I share my test results. I share my here, this was my testosterone before, this is after, this is what I did. Because it's super important, and you know, and everyone's um toxicity load is different, right? And uh so for me, what I was experiencing in uh 2023 is when I started noticing differences, right? Like uh I was forgetting things, I was like, hey, like I'm having these neurological blocks, and these blocks were just weird. Like I'm doing a surgery, and all of a sudden, like I have a vivid image in my head repeating something that I'm on stage at five when I was five years old. And then I had to confirm it with my dad. And my dad was like, Yeah, here are the tapes. You know, you had all the VHS tapes and all that stuff. He's like, Yeah, that that was you at five years old. You had the violin and you were doing this, and it was like a vivid memory. But I'm like, when I'm doing surgery, why is this happening? Right. Then I started forgetting things, and it it got really bad in um March of 2024, and that's when my staff was like, Hey, there you got a problem. I'm like, what are you talking about? Like, you're forgetting to get a patient numb. You're you're just forgetting things. I'm like, how long has this been going on? They're like, for about six months.

SPEAKER_02 3:49

Because you're an incredibly bright man, so you know thank you. Yeah, I was well when that starts happening, because that was my husband said too. I said he was the brightest man. So when those shifts started happening, I was like, wow, I'm not recognizing who he is.

SPEAKER_00 4:04

Yeah, and and that's with my staff. I was like, wait, what's and some of you guys, some of my staff have been with me for over a decade. I was like, what's going on? Like we talk about everything, like we just didn't know how to approach you and not tell you, like, hey, you're this is what's going on. I'm like, no, tell me, like, we're friends, yeah. We work together, but we're friends. Tell me what's wrong. They're like, Yeah, you've been forgetting a lot of things. Um, you get agitated, you're you're you're just off. It's not you who we've known for years. I'm like, okay, there's something wrong now. You know, if they're telling me that, my wife is like, hey, there's there's some something, but we couldn't connect the dots together.

SPEAKER_02 4:36

That takes courage though from your staff. It does. I know a lot of a lot of people like they want to tiptoe around it, they don't want to make you feel bad. And they're like, well, it's not always like that. So people, I know for me, that's what I saw sometimes with our staff, or they'll come, they would come to me and mention these things. Or even for me, I kind of kept it. I'm like, well, it's not always the same, or I would mention it to him. So luckily, also you were allowing to receive that information, right?

SPEAKER_00 5:05

Yeah. Yeah. Cause I was like, I don't want to be that person because I've seen people with toxic toxicity, but I still couldn't put that whole connection together, right? And I was like, okay, I don't want to be that person. Like, there's no way. Like, I need to get help. And you know, it's coincidence. And you know, I I think everything aligns for a reason, right? And at that time, Gary Brucker released a podcast with Dr. Pompa. And I watched that podcast and I called Gary right away. I'm like, hey, whatever Dr. Pompa's talking about, and I didn't know who he was at the time, is exactly what I have. Get me in touch with him. Like, I don't care what it is, just put us in a group chat together, and then I'll take it from there. So I spoke with Dr. Pompa right away, and he's like, Yeah, you have mercury toxicity. Like, this is literally the science of it. He's like, I was there, you're there, you're just very deep inside of it. I was like, okay, how do I get help? Like, he's like, talk to one of my you know team members. I'm like, no, you walk me through it. Like, I need you to guide me through it. He's like, I don't take on clients. I'm like, you're taking me on. Like, I don't care. Like, I need this resolve. I'm young, I have a

Finding Answers Through Heavy Metal Testing

SPEAKER_00 6:10

lot of people to help, and I can't go down this hole and be sick, right? Right.

SPEAKER_02 6:14

And internally, we're lucky that you had those people on speed dial because you would have probably gotten lost in the system. 100%. Because that's what happened to my husband. We he's like, okay, went to a doctor. Nothing wrong with that. But it just, it's just then it was just let's treat the system. And that's how opioids got introduced, um, uh nerve damage uh medication, antidepressant, like it just it just got lost in a system and that spiral into addiction and other things, right? So you are so lucky that you had Gary. And in fact, it's interesting that you mentioned Gary Breca, because I met him last year, and he's the one. I gave him all these things that I was able to tell them about my own family, about the brain scans I had done, the different things about my son, in particular, and at that time. He's the one who directed me to go get mold testing parasites and heavy metals. And I went home right after he told me that. And we were all in the red in those things. And so it's that's why I'm like, it's it's who do you you ask? You gotta ask the right people. And we're lucky that we're in a circle that of health experts that will speak truth about these things.

SPEAKER_00 7:30

Correct. And and then it's just taking action, right? Right away, right? Not waning on it because there's a lot of stuff out there, but it's just like, okay, well, I've been through it, I went through it. Just like, let me quarterback it. That's why I tell patients, let me quarterback your health. Give me three, six months, three to six months, and I'll help you, I'll guide you along the way, and then you'll get better, right?

SPEAKER_02 7:49

And that that's so that's why I was fortunate to have these guys on my is there a particular test you recommend for um you know, for heavy metals right now. I know there's one that I recommend, you know, I just recommended a dentist that has out in Michigan this week. I said, just it's worth it, just get it done, you know.

SPEAKER_00 8:05

Yeah, you can do the tri-test, right? Um, from uh was um the tri-test from um not upgraded form, it was other company. I forgot uh the company's flipping my mind, but it's called the tri-test.

SPEAKER_02 8:16

Okay. Uh yeah, I think I've used like RUPA and um mosaic, there's different ones.

SPEAKER_00 8:22

Yeah, and there's DMPS, the chelation test as well, the provocation test, because that will also help. Right. Um, because it it's also like when we think about it, there's mercury, there's tin, there's titanium, uh, there's aluminum in the air. There's there's a lot of metals that we're exposed to.

SPEAKER_01 8:38

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 8:38

Um, but it's one of those things where you know, it took me a whole year to finally like detox my body. And uh it it was the wildest experience. You know, I worked throughout the whole thing, and you know, at one point my whole skin, like I'm dark already, I'm brown, I'm Indian, right? So my skin was yellow. I was like, you've never seen an Indian person yellow. Like, like this is wild. My eyes were just yellow. And I called Dr. Pompa, he's like, Yeah, you gotta stop. Like, you're just detoxing too quick. You this is bad. So then you know, you guided me through it. And that and that's the thing, you need guidance, right? You can't just do these the the protocols here, you go, and then there's no one guiding you. Um, then another time my fingernails turned blue, so I became synotic. Right. So I did I did a procedure for a patient removing metal, using the smart protocol, doing all that stuff, and then my fingernails turned blue, so I called Dr. Bomb. I'm like, hey, what's going on? He's like, Yeah, you got a problem. Go breed some oxygen, you know, because it was just stuck in my body. So those are two like real experiences. And yeah, being all yellow, that's you know, that's hypotic, like liver toxicity.

SPEAKER_02 9:40

My liver Yeah, because your body couldn't detox fast enough, get it out, right? And I've seen that with my own son, he gets the Hexheimer reaction, right? Yeah, and it floats in there where to the point he'll sleep for 36 hours. So his he can't, and a lot of it, I don't know if you ever done the MTHFR gene test. Yeah, yeah. And do so, do you have that gene?

SPEAKER_00 9:59

Because I know Yeah, I have the MTHFR and then the MTR gene, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 10:03

Okay, so then for people listening, that just means that you'll have a slower time to detox.

unknown 10:09

Correct.

SPEAKER_02 10:10

So it's important to know these things uh because not everybody will, you know, will be able to detox naturally. Some of these heavy metals are easier, and you'll be like, well, why is it affecting me or one or the other? Well, it could be because you have the MTHFR gene.

SPEAKER_00 10:25

Yeah, and you know the the the wildest thing about the MTHFR gene, like I, you know, growing up, like, and and that's where Gary and I met. We met in 2018, we became very good friends, and he's like, hey, look, like let's do the DNA test and have the MTHFR mutation. So I never laughed. I was never like a never happy guy in my life, right? I get all these war certificates, graduate top. I never cared. I'm like, oh, whatever, move on to the next thing. And so he's like, You need folate, you're you're missing this. That that's your key thing. So I started taking it, and three days later, I'm on the sofa. My wife and I were watching a movie, and I started laughing. She's like, You're laughing, and like, no, I'm not. And I'm arguing with her that I'm laughing. I had no idea because I didn't know what it meant to be happy. Like, I had no idea. And this is like going back to 2018. So, what was I? I was uh 34 at that time. I had no idea. And I'm like, this is weird, it feels good, you know. And and it it definitely so then I started taking the methylfolate, but then you you start hitting these roadblocks, right? And then recently I did the the SNP nutrition that we spoke about, that SNP test. And they formulate my and again, I have no affiliation with them, but they formulate my supplements for me. And I needed more, I needed like 108 times the amount of B9. So I needed a different version, methadone.

SPEAKER_02 11:41

Yeah, so I looked them up so they test your DNA, which that's one thing that I'm doing next with my family is genetic testing. The DNA, what are you working with? And I love what you sent to me because then yeah, then it's you know exactly what you need for your body. We're each equally built, uh, you know, created differently.

SPEAKER_00 11:58

Yeah, 100%. Because I was thinking, because when you did the original, and these were only a like what we we were working with what we had back then, right? In 2018, this is what we had, 2019. This is what we had, and now 2026, we have a lot more that's available to us, right? Because they were not custom vitamins and minerals back then, no company was doing it. Um, and SNP deep dives into they do like a 12 version of the methylfolate or MTHFR, like that methylation test, and they found a lot, they went deeper into it. And like I was taking close to 25 milligrams of B9, but that was methylfolate. And what they said you mean methatetrahydrofolate, so it's a whole different version of B9, yeah, right, but it works so much better, and I feel the difference, right? And that that's the cool part about it. So now I don't need to take a lot of all these other supplements, and and that was the crazy part. It's like and we'll we'll deep dive into like what my whole detox pathway and how I got here. But I was taking like close to 60 supplements a day. It it got chaotic, you know. It's like, how do you handle that? I know.

SPEAKER_02 12:55

Although you should see my pantry. I I do, I'm I'm supplement junkie, but at the same time now, what you need to take for your body, what's you know,

Detox Reactions Plus The MTHFR Factor

SPEAKER_02 13:05

you make it. Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 13:06

And now it's like under under like two main ones, and then I take a few extra ones just for longevity health, right? So now I'm down to like less than nine, like nine around or less than ten. So it makes life a lot easier, you know, quicker, traveling is easier. But yeah, it gets a little chaotic because we're told that hey, take this, take this, take that. It's gonna help you. But can your DNA tolerate it? Now, if I had the DNA test prior to um starting this whole methyl uh metal detox, it would have been much better, right? Because then I would have detoxed a lot better. So we have the technology now, so we just gotta do it the right steps, right? And that's the biggest thing.

SPEAKER_02 13:43

Did you also have for a symptom back to the mercury, like the numbing of the hand, the fingers?

SPEAKER_00 13:48

Yeah, so uh what was going on was I I would get like the numbness across the elbow, like the the shoulder itself. But when I was doing surgery, like I like I'm a righty, so I bend a little bit, my neck bends to the right just for visualization. I get these little ticks, like chat, my neck would just go like that. I'm like, this is weird, or like I'm concentrating, and all of a sudden my goggles would like flicker. Like, this is weird because like I would get those jerks. And then I had the memory problems where my nerves would just like I would just have these thoughts, and I couldn't get past those thoughts, and they were all just memories, and they were just neurological. It's a neurotoxin, right? So it was just those blockages I was getting. I'm like, this is a problem. And I mean, I grew up, my mom was a dentist, so she had metal all the all around her. I grew up with metal in the house, like mercury in the house. There's like mercury balls back then, you were mixing it, and even in school, right? Yes, school was not now. When you go to the dental school, it's all high-tech, there's all this other stuff. But back then, it was just a room, it was one entry point or two entry points, and as a room, the ventilation was probably horrible. You know, and we're all drilling, some people are drilling it dry, so you're getting it infused. And just for me, like my body just didn't tolerate it, it was just too much buildup very quickly. You know, the human body can tolerate a lot of toxins. Um, but when we when our bucket uh overflows and mine was just overflowing, and that's when it started happening.

SPEAKER_02 15:09

It started happening. Well, I'm so glad you had the right direction right from the beginning. And is it in during the detox process that you said you nearly died twice? What correct?

SPEAKER_00 15:20

Yeah, yeah, that was it with the liver, the the yellow eyes and the liver going haywire, like I would just pass out, and then on top of that, the the fingernails turning blue, right? That that was a big problem.

SPEAKER_02 15:33

So, is that something you test regularly still now as far as the mercury and heavy metals?

SPEAKER_00 15:37

Yeah, so I do the DMPS test, uh the chelation test, and it comes very low. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 15:42

Yeah, which is not and so now you've probably encouraged other health, you know, dentists to do the same test. Do you get a lot of pushback or I don't need this, or I don't believe this? Because I know I do. Most don't listen.

SPEAKER_00 15:54

Most don't listen. It's it's incredible. They don't listen. Yeah, we're in this field, and you know, it's uh it takes a lot for them to actually. I I think you have to experience a sickness, and then you'll do it.

SPEAKER_02 16:07

Yes, yeah, I can't unsee the truth. I can't unsee all the symptoms my husband had. And I sat by his bed. So I found him on his last days. It it's like I cannot unsee that truth. And now more and more that I have dentists like you on, I have Dr. Michelle Jorgensen that shared her, you know, her story, and I can't unsee the truth. And so that's why I stand so strong. But when I have sitting beside a dentist and say, hey, have you ever thought of you know testing for that? And they're like, Oh, that's that's not, you know, no, it's not.

SPEAKER_00 16:39

Yeah, it doesn't exist. I know I get that all the time. I get that from dentists all the time, and my buddies too. And then I was like, okay, you just gotta hit a wall. And when you hit that wall, that's when you're gonna do it, right?

SPEAKER_01 16:48

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 16:49

It's not to get religious, but it's like when you when you read the like uh the book of John and it says, uh, you know, um one of the the disciples, um he had to when Jesus re or resurrected, he had to, he didn't believe it, he had to touch, touch him, put his finger in the hole. I think it was Thomas had to put his finger in the hole and then put his finger into the body to see, right? Yes. So even though we're out there talking about this, it's until you hit that wall and you come to that real realization that I don't think anyone's gonna really um be open to it, even though it's an expensive test.

SPEAKER_02 17:25

And now, if the one the dentist that said yes to doing the tests, do you find a lot of them are coming up high in have a good one? Oh, 100%.

SPEAKER_00 17:33

Yeah, they're they're coming up high, they're significant, others are coming up high.

SPEAKER_02 17:36

Here, here's yeah, explain that the significant others, because I found my son was high in mercury, so I found out that it's epigenetic. So and and also Scott, my husband Scott's dad was a dentist as well. So, and Scott, I remember him saying he was playing with some of the metals in the dental office when he was a young kid. So it's epigenetic, and then it was passed down to my son as well. And and you mentioned that you were you were exposing your wife. So explain that as well.

SPEAKER_00 18:06

So my wife, so when she did her chelation test, she was 10 times more with mercury toxicity than me. So I was like, Are you eating fish like tuna fish all day long when I'm not home? You know, are you eating out of the can? She's like, No, I'm not eating like she's like, I like tuna, but I'm not eating it all day long. So how are you 10 times higher than me, right? Uh on the chelation test. And you know, it's empirical data, but there's no data behind it. But how does she get that high? It had to be early on from just skin to skin contact because it's it's honest though, even though you take all the protective measures.

SPEAKER_02 18:37

Yeah, there are women more susceptible because I know I've heard testosterone, higher testosterone makes you um less susceptible, you know, to or able to detox. Is that what it is if you have more testosterone?

SPEAKER_00 18:50

Uh correct. You can detox better, right? Um, 100%. But uh, I you know, at the when it comes down to it, I think women detox a lot better. Just when you think about it with pregnancy, right? So what does a placenta do? Placenta takes hey, placenta takes uh everything from you and give it to your newborn, right? So then you feel good, but what did you just give your newborn all the toxicity load, right? Exactly. Oh, yeah. I think women detox a lot better than when than men, but it it just there's all these blockages that we have.

SPEAKER_02 19:22

Okay, I love that too. You bring that up because I do talk about that in my latest book, The Gut God Connection, because I dive into um the gut, but the gut journey from birth. From we we set our nervous system in vitro, and it's all of our toxins on both sides, mom and dad, is passed down. And so that is heavy metals as well. And how do you think we can inspire other healthcare professionals like dentists to really just try to open their mind to this is probably affecting them if they're removing amalgams still to this day, or uh then it's to why is there fear to know seeing that truth? Is there times like, for example, maybe a better question, a time in your career where you started seeing these truths about maybe cavitation, root canals, merc, these amalgams, but you weren't ready to accept that.

SPEAKER_00 20:19

Yeah, I mean, you gotta you gotta do it to a loved one, right? So for me, um, at that time, my girlfriend ended up doing two root canals on her. And it was the upper molars, number three and fourteen. And this was in 2012. And then she complained for migraines for six years, right? And it, I was like, no, no, it's not the teeth, not the teeth. We had it checked

Root Canals Migraines And A Practice Pivot

SPEAKER_00 20:40

out by specialists, other colleagues, we had it all checked out. Everyone said it's fine. Um, x-rays three and 14 are right below your sinus, right? The max ray sinus. So if there's an infection with the root canals, then um the sinuses will be involved, or you see a gray shadow. So as a dentist, I'm like, oh, I did the best root canal ever, right? Everything looks really good on you. But her body couldn't tolerate it. For six years, she had migraines, and I came came to a point where she's like, either you take it out or I found someone, I'm gonna go get them taken out. I'm like, wait a second, no, like I'm gonna treat you. I treat all family members.

SPEAKER_02 21:09

Yeah, your identity is a little bit hurt, you know.

SPEAKER_00 21:12

But I'm not gonna let you go somewhere else. So I took them out and migraines went away. I was like, okay, but something inside of me, it was an innate ability inside of me of knowing what to do with bone, just cleaning bone. I know it sounds crazy, it sounds just the weirdest thing, but it's just something since 2009, once I graduated school, I got into residency, just something about cleaning bone, I just knew I had to look a certain way. And I had to do whatever it took and whatever modalities I had at that time to clean the bone really well so it would bleed properly, and then the patients would heal. And I was like, okay, so I took her tea, took the two root canals out and then uh grafted the areas, did everything, and then she healed really well and she migraines went away. I'm like, okay, now I need to go down that rabbit hole. And then once I went down that rabbit hole, I know I haven't come out of it.

SPEAKER_02 21:55

You couldn't unsee it. So did you stop doing root canals after that?

SPEAKER_00 21:58

Correct. Yes, stopped doing root canals. Stop doing the titanium implants, um, graft everything, cleaning up the bone really well, using the ozone, lasers, and ultrasonics, just incorporated everything I've learned. And then from mentors and from other healthcare providers, like, okay, this is what we're doing. It's a whole combination approach. So it's not only dental, we're taking care of the gut, we're taking care of the whole body as a whole. Before we like, so if we're having a console today, the surgery started for you today. It didn't start for you the day I see you or the day I make an incision inside of your mouth. It actually started the day we spoke because we're switching your whole mindset around and we're actually getting you on a whole nutrition plan and guiding you through the whole process. Because uh, we're some patients aren't ready, right? And that's what uh that's uh you know, she helped me go down that rabbit hole again. It it comes from a loved one, like when you start seeing it, seeing things that you've done to someone who's very close to you, like, okay, what's going on here?

SPEAKER_02 22:52

You start and you knew you did everything right. Like you said, it was a perfect root canal. And you know what? I saw that with my husband. He he was general dentist, but he loved doing root canals, and so he prided himself. He actually was teaching other physics dentists his his tricks, you know, and he had thought about going into endo. But I remember as a hygienist, because I would, you know, work alongside with him, that we'd have patients going, it still hurts. It still hurts. In fiction wouldn't go away. You talked about migraines, headaches, and and just that pain. And now I'm like, it clicks. It's like, oh my gosh, we never thought about oh, leaving something dead in the mouth and what it harbors and what you saw in and um the bacteria. Like, yeah, I I know you shared a picture with me about uh this tooth that you're you're extracting and the parasite. Yeah, you know, the parasites. And so it's a breeding ground for all of that. And I know that's really hard for other dentists to really come to that truth, but until maybe they once you see it, you can't unsee it. And it's okay, there's other options, it doesn't make you wrong. Like your identity didn't say, Oh, I'm a terrible dentist, you know. Right? You just pivoted. How can I, you know?

SPEAKER_00 24:11

Yeah, I mean, again, there's nothing wrong. Like, if you want to do a root canal, just explain to the patient, right? And there's a reason for them, right? If you have an acute pain, we have to get you out of pain. Being in pain is a problem because then you're in sympathetic overdrive. You're in that fight or flight mode constantly. We have to calm the body down. So some patients, yeah, you gotta do that root canal and then come up with a plan. Like, okay, this is what we want to do. This is these are your options. Here's A, B, C, D, and E. And now you have all that information. It's your autonomy, you make the decision, right? So it's like I'm just here to explain to you and educate you. These are all the ways we can approach this one tooth, and you make the decision, right? Because I I can't tell you like this is completely bad or this is the worst thing, right? Because that's when you know, root canals are still gonna be done, they're always gonna be done, but it it just depends on the patient, right? Some patients come in saying, I don't want that. I know what can happen. Okay, you're educated on it, but that's still an option here. We're gonna still give you that option. You don't want to do it, then that's fine. Then let's move forward to the next option for you.

SPEAKER_02 25:08

Okay, I like that. So it's never, I like the way there's not black and white, but let me give you all the information about it and what we do.

SPEAKER_00 25:15

Exactly. Yeah, because you need to be educated on it. You need to wait, you need to also know what you're getting yourself into because uh it goes back to like setting up the patient, right? I always say that's a it's a trying, it's a pyramid, right? The base of the pyramid is always diet and nutrition fitness, right? If someone's not gonna be doing the diet, nutrition fitness, then don't be taking teeth out on them because they're not gonna heal, right? 80% of it, that's the base of the pyramid, right? Then detox the body. Naturally, your body's gonna detox, and that's the next part of it. Then dental comes along because dental is like a cherry on top. It's like, okay, it's gonna fix everything, fix the interferences that we have. Then you take supplements, peptides, and then all of a sudden you see your hormones are working perfectly fine, right? Because you got rid of all the blockages. But if you're not gonna take care of the diet, the nutrition and fitness, then what's the point of doing all this dental work?

SPEAKER_02 26:03

I love that you bring that up and I love that's how you care because I see that as for the nervous system. I always see the nervous system diet for sure and the gut health is all correlated because if you are in, I'm sure you see it, if you have a patient that is in the sympathetic nervous system, that fight and flight, it's it's a breeding ground in the gut for acid reflex, for um actually parasites thrive in that type of energy, and it causes that leaky gut where parasites can enter. So creating a nervous system, it's almost like calm the nervous system on a regular basis so then they can heal. But it can, and also in the sympathetic nervous system, patients have a really hard time committing to that next step. They're already overwhelmed, right? I'm sure you see that. Like you give them a lot of information, and it's almost you have to work on their nervous system so they can accept that first step. And I those baby steps of changing the nutrition and uh, you know, and then because you see it in the mouth. Like, what do you see? I always say the mouth is the mirror. When I look in the mouth, I see the amount of stress, emotional suppression they've had over years, some of the medication they've been on, you know, it's just just their whole lifestyle. I see it. Yeah. Without even them telling me the truth, you know.

SPEAKER_00 27:25

It's the same, it's the same exact thing. It's like you give me an extra, I already know what's going on with the patient, right? I can paint the picture without even talking, even mentioning one word to the patient. Yeah. And they're always surprised. It's like, how do you know all that? So I'm like, your x ray tells me everything that's going on without you even telling me a word, right? And you're 100% right. How do we break that sympathetic, that fight or flight mode, right? When we have these interferences, like biological dentistry, I try to keep it simple. It's, you know, there's a lot of woo-woo stuff out there. And I I was like, you know, when patients see me, do you do this? Do you do this? No, I keep it very simple. Five very simple things I'm looking for. Do you have

Five Simple Checks For Whole-Body Clues

SPEAKER_00 28:00

any metals, right? Metal fillings, metal crowns, metal implants. Do you have a tooth that's missing? Were you born with the tooth that's missing, or do you have a tooth that was taken out? Right? There could be something in the pro in the in a problem in the bone. Do you have a dead tooth? Whether that's a root canal or injury, boxing injury, airbag injury, some injury. Is the tooth discolored? Is it necrotic? Then we look at the bite, want to make sure the bite is adequate. Not, you know, not telling every patient to get a perfect bite. Is the bite adequate that you're not causing trauma? Then the oral gut brain connection, right? Because the teeth are the middle ground. Above it is the brain, it's upstream, and below it is the gut, it's downstream, right? So everything's metabolic. So we look at those five things, and if any one of those things are off, we're gonna take a look at that area, right? And to keep it even simpler, think of like you have 32 teeth, so you have 32 circuit breakers. If one of those five things are off on one of those, that circuit breaker's off. What do we need to do to fix that, to turn that circuit breaker back on? Because if we turn that circuit breaker on, everything's gonna flow and the body can heal them. So as a dentist, keep it very simple because we don't want to step on the medical side of things, right? But it's important to work with our functional medicine colleagues or any medical colleague. Uh and they're always surprised, they're like, how did that happen? It's not like a miracle, it's very simple. We just address those five principles, and now the patient's healing.

SPEAKER_02 29:18

It's healing. Yeah. I love that you mentioned that because that's every tooth is part of the meridian, right? And part of connected to an organ. And I think one that's often overlooked, especially for cardiac disease and cardiac arrest, is connecting it back to a tooth that might have been infected. I I have many stories of, oh, somebody was completely healthy and died instantly of cardiac arrest. And I'm like, I would love to see their mouth, you know, love to see if it's correlated back. I've had many that said, yes, they had an infection in the mouth and it created uh cardiac arrest. But then again, that's kind of taboo, right? They're never correlated. And and that's why I'm a big advocate. Let's, if you're starting to have symptoms, let's look in the mouth first, right? Come to someone like you. And that has that the whole body aspect because you look at the guy, you get people on uh parasite. I talked to Jeremy, I know he's coming in for surgery very soon. And actually, one thing I found out working for a biological dentist, I have cavitations as well. And that was a hard truth to uh take on. And I know I'll have to come see you, but uh what you put people on is uh parasite cleanse, correct?

SPEAKER_00 30:37

Correct, yeah. Just starting. So with the yeah, with my team that uh we work with, we have medical doctors on my team, and we get the patients on some uh form of antiparasitic, uh antifungal, and uh sometimes if they've had Lyme or some symptoms of Lyme, uh antibiotic that can deal with that. Yeah, because we want to prep the patient. So I believe in pharmaceuticals. Um, I know there's a lot of my colleagues who don't believe in it. They're like, you can't, you know, one out you could just put in the IV and all that stuff. Like, no, we need to prep the patient. Unfortunately, Americans are very sick and we're dealing with a lot of disease. Um, because you can see it like all week long. I it was surgery after surgery this week, just two to three surgeries a day. And you can see how sick the patients are, and then the next day they're like, Oh my god, I feel great. Wow, the next day, just from the Yeah, even a lady who came up from North Carolina, we just took out 13 teeth on her yesterday, and today she's like, I just feel amazing. Like, I feel good, hardly any swelling because you're following these protocols, right? And that's where pharmaceuticals are very important because if not, our body can't eliminate them, right? We need to pee, we need to poop, we need to sweat. If we're not doing those three things, we're not gonna get the resolution, right? And think about it like from here, where's everything gonna go? Hopefully downstream. If it goes upstream, you're in trouble, right?

SPEAKER_02 31:52

If it crosses a blood brain barrier, then you're in you're you're yeah, because right now we're seeing connection with Alzheimer's, dementia, yeah, you know, the same bacteria that's in the mouth, we're finding it in the brain.

SPEAKER_00 32:02

Yeah, 100%. And when we do the the DNA connections, the the test itself, we see the prophymouris chinchivalis, right? That that's what they connected with Alzheimer's and uh Parkinson's, right? And why is it such a like you know, like you go back 50, 60 years, this wasn't a problem. So what were they doing back then, right? That's what we need to look at and then figure out hey, what happened to us? Right. And and that's the important part. And you speak, yeah, talking about Jeremy, yeah, exactly. I think he didn't have wisdom teeth there. And it's like, no, you have problems. So we took the 3D scan, it's like, look, you can see these dark areas there, and look, we're gonna go, we're gonna send this out, we're gonna send it out for a lime panel, the DNA panel, uh, a Rantes panel, and then also we'll send it out for a microtoxin test and let's just see what is all stored in the bone, right? And then this way other colleagues will understand, like, hey, if you're born without a tooth, there's still a problem, right? Just put it this way if you were born without an eye, medical emergency. Like you will run to like, hey, what's going on? Born with one kidney, it's a problem, right? Born with only four fingers instead of the one is missing, problem. But why is it not, oh, you're born without a tooth, it's just a tooth? It's not a tooth, it's just a tooth, it's an organ, right? There's a nerve, artery, vein, lymphatic drainage,

Cavitations Parasites And Prepping For Surgery

SPEAKER_00 33:15

and function that defines an organ. So each tooth is an organ. So if the if you're born without it, what's going on inside the jawbone? What's being stored there? And we're of course exposed to a lot more environmental toxins than ever before. So are they stored inside there? Yeah, and then uh yeah, I showed you that picture of that parasite. So the story for her, her dad is uh is a dentist, and I met him at uh at a conference that and um this was a conference dealing with a lot of parasitic cleanses and everything, but he had no idea. He's like, hey, my daughter had her tea taken out about five years ago. There's some little root tips in there. Can you take a look at her? Like, yeah, sure. She was on antiparasitic cleanses for two years, so that was helping her build her body out. And then um we ended up doing the surgery last year in July, and this thing was like it's it's upper right cavitation. And you know, I talked to the patient the day before, just you know, talking, but didn't mention anything to me because like I, you know, now I know why she didn't mention anything. But uh, you know, did the surgery, she's under sedation, did the surgery, and I was like, hey, yeah, cavitation for me is easy to clean up, and I go in there, clean it up, it's more routine. And my anesthesiologist is like, You're you're you're a little frustrated here. I'm like, Yeah, there's something in here. My assistant, who's been with me over for a decade, she's like, What's wrong with you? I'm like, I think I'm losing my vision. Like, what do you mean? I'm like, she's like, You're like, and I'm recording it so they can see it on the screen. She's like, No, you got everything. I'm like, no, there's something there. It comes and goes, comes and goes. Like, I don't understand this. So I just take my goggles off and I walk away and like, and they're like, You're like, I'm done. Like, I can't. Like, if I can't see, then I don't want to operate on the patient anymore. You know, then there's gonna be something that can happen and go wrong. Um, but then I go back in there, I'm like, okay, let me just go back in there, you know, a new unit at a time. Go in there, I'm like, okay, let me just pull on that what I see there. I grab it, and it was this long worm that comes out of her. Right. And I was like, okay, now I know what was messing with me, but she was on antiparasix for two years. Why didn't it kill the worm? Right? Because again, this is a contained field, right? Inside, even though the environment, her mouth is connected to the rest of her body, it was encapsulated. Right? So imagine what was going on for her the whole time. So I spoke to her that evening. I was like, hey, do you ever feel something going on? She's like, Yeah. She's like, I don't want to tell you something because then you thought I'm crazy and cancel my surgery. I'm like, that's happened to you. She's like, Yeah, it's happened to me.

unknown 35:37

Oh no.

SPEAKER_00 35:38

Like, now I know why. She's like, Yeah, when I get acupuncture on my right side, I would get very flush and red. Like, interesting. I was like, but and then she's like, Yeah, I would always feel something crawling on my right side, like upright side. I'm like, I'm gonna send you a photo, check your phone. And she's she knew it. She's like, I knew there was something wrong. You know, and and that's the part where we have to learn to understand our patients. Just like yesterday with the with the we only planned around uh we planned 12 areas or 12 teeth that were gonna come out. She's like, hey, can you take a look at this one other tooth? She's like, I just don't feel like there, I think there's something wrong. You can see some decay on it. So restoratively very easy, right? You could just put a crown on the tooth, right? I'm be okay. But she's like, no, there's something, I know there's something wrong with it. I'm like, okay, when we're in surgery, I'll take a look at it because I have the incision there, I could take a look deeper in there. So I ended up taking the tooth out. And when I took the tooth out, all the pathogen, all the decay inside inside the bone led right on top of her nerve.

SPEAKER_01 36:36

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 36:36

And I you literally dissect her nerve and I went around it and cleaned everything out. And that was the area which was not planned for surgery. For surgery. Her body knew it.

SPEAKER_02 36:46

Yeah, so you're trusting the intuition, right? That's my thing, is like trust your body, learn to listen to it so much. And sometimes the mind has a hard time catching up what it is. Like she said, she didn't know, but she's felt the nudge to ask you to look at that one, right? There was something wrong. And sometimes we can't pinpoint it. That's how I am. Sometimes, like, there's something's off, but I I can't, I don't know what it is, but I'll, you know, I'll dig deeper and ask questions. And I love that that's how you do dentistry and really.

SPEAKER_00 37:15

Yeah, because you know your body better, you know your body better than anyone else, right? And when something is off, like a tooth should not be sensitive. A tooth, if it's sensitive, you're in sympathetic overdrive, or there's a problem with the tooth, right? So some patients come in, they're like, hey, my teeth are sensitive. Well, if all the teeth are sensitive, I know that there's a problem here, right? If one is sensitive, okay, let's take a look. And you you we brought up the meridians before, you know, in Western medicine, we don't use it as diagnosis, but we can use it as a reference tool, right? So I use it as a reference tool. And I'm like, okay, well, what's along that meridian? Um, is there a problem? Is there an issue? And if there is, maybe there's something else going on downstream or upstream. Let's get let's refer you out to the right professional and let's handle that. And all of a sudden the sensitivity goes away on the tooth. No, so the tooth can be a warning sign as well. So that's one of the things as then is if a tooth is sensitive, we jump in there like, oh, we needed to do work on the tooth. Let's take a step back, let's really evaluate the whole picture. Why is that tooth sensitive? Why is there a problem there? Yeah, right? Because the body can naturally heal and the tooth wants to heal too, that because it's all connected.

SPEAKER_02 38:21

Yeah, but what's the trigger, right? So you're trying to get to the root. So, for example, for me, I come back from the Texas Dental Association. I'm, you know, talking, but I'm taking courses too, and I take this one about oral cancer, and I couldn't help but notice that every picture uh that was alongside some oral cancer that was found was these metal, you know, the metal. And I was like, for me, I was like, okay, system, you know, the system is reacting to the metal in the mouth, but there's also other gut issues creating this acidity completely in the gut. And and so it's it needs to be talked about, you know. Every every picture, there's something triggering, and the mouth is showing signs, either on the tongue. You know, oftentimes I look at the tongue. Yeah. Are you uh deficient in certain minerals or or airway? Airway is a big one, you know. Airway, I've done a lot of airway-ish things for my son. And just getting, I think the mouth is more of a mirror than people understand and keep giving clues already to all your organs.

SPEAKER_00 39:26

Correct. I mean, you hit it right there. The metal is a hormone disruptor, right? And what is our what is our stomach, right? There you need you need enzymes to digest food. But if you have the hormone disruption, how are you gonna get those enzymes? Right? And and now we have gastric reflux. So here, let's take these medications for it. But let's, you know, look what's above that. It's the teeth.

SPEAKER_01 39:46

Yeah, right?

SPEAKER_00 39:47

The gums are connected to the gut, and the gut is connected to the gums. It's it's all one, right? So if you have the metals in your mouth, or if there's any issues or toxins inside of there, let's evaluate it and take a step further before, you know, and and it's again, it's it's two roads, right? Some people want to go traditional route, go traditional route.

One Clean Room Still Fails

SPEAKER_00 40:05

Some people want to deep dive and like, hey, I don't want to be on medication the rest of my life. I want my body to heal. Okay, then let's go this route, right? Yeah. But you pick and choose. There's it's hard to find a happy medium, right? And the the biggest thing and the misconception is like, you know, you treat one area, but if your whole mouth or majority of your mouth has a problem, think of your mouth as a four-bedroom house, right? Each quadrant is a four-bedroom house. You say, hey, I I only want to treat this upper right area. Okay, we treat that one bedroom, right? So what about the other three bedrooms? So one bedroom is perfectly clean. Now you're a hoarder. Your house is your big hoarder. Your one bedroom is clean, but your other three bedrooms have rodents, have termites, have house, and all that stuff. They're gonna go to a clean room, right? Yeah, so that's the other problem. The cycle continues, yeah. Yeah, and then it gets reinfected. And that's the biggest problem that we also face in the biological dentistry field, right? You know, some people think it's too aggressive. Well, is it too aggressive or are we trying to get the patient healthy? Unfortunately, it's a lot of repair work, right? And if the patient truly understands what they're getting themselves into and what how we're trying to get them healthy, then we can proceed that way. Yeah, but you can't expect to clean one area and not leave the other area because now your immune system is gonna go after that area, right? And now it's gonna be hypersensitive, so you can't get healthy. And then patients, like, oh, this stuff doesn't work. No, it does work, but you still have a mess.

SPEAKER_02 41:26

Yeah, well, that's why the gut connection in the mouth by we gotta, you know, working it all. It's not one quick fix and finding somebody like you. And I mean, you know, not every dentist is like you. So how can we encourage other dentists to be open-minded to this? Like, um, did you do a different, you know, once you dove into it and learn it yourself, did you do other education that you can recommend? You know, other dentists listening right now, and they're like, Yeah, okay, I'm starting to see this in my own patients. I want to learn, and it could be really overwhelming for them to overhaul their dental practice of how they've always done it, but they're open.

SPEAKER_00 42:02

Yeah. Yeah, I mean, we overhauled this practice, right? It was very tough to do that because it was traditional practice into more biological dental care. Uh, yeah, uh, shadowing's number one. Like you need to go shadow, right? You need to really see it or let a biological dentist who's well versed in this operate on a loved one, right? And then let's see the changes unfold in front of you. And once you start seeing the changes unfold in front of you, then there's a lot, right? Then you can do. There's so many education programs out there. I know one of my buddies uh from Germany, Dr. Dominik Nishowicz, we're working on the whole biodentistry global standard to standardize this kind of care because you you've interviewed a lot of biological dentists and you've seen there's a again, there's a fork in the road. And the problem is patients are getting kind of screwed up, excuse my language, because they're not getting the full care that they should, because there's corners being cut and procedures that are being done not the right way. So there's re-entry points or revisions that need to be done. So that's what we're working on standardizing the care for biological dentistry. So when patients go on, here's the link, you can find a biological dentist, they're qualified and they're well versed in this kind of treatment. There's different levels too, right? Um, so because the biggest thing right now is like, hey, I got a certificate. Like I got a box is full of certificates, and I don't hang one up. I I don't want to, right? Because you can pay for it, you can get it, but that doesn't mean that you're qualified, right? You need to literally be great with your hands. Like, and dentistry is an operator skill. There's a lot of education that goes behind it, but you're an operator. You need to be really great with your hands. It's the you need to have the didactic, what we call the software, but you also need to have the technical skills as well. Right? You can't have if you don't have both, then there's a problem. And if you have one more than the other, then stick to that portion of it, right? Right. So that's the biggest thing.

SPEAKER_02 43:56

And implementing everything you've learned, right? Because I know I temp, I float. Around. I mean, now I prefer working for uh Dr. Treve, Dr. Desante, who are biological dentists here in Gilbert. But I've tempted other biological, they're not all the same. So I I love, I actually met Dr. Dom as well, the health optimization summit, and got to talk to him. And I love what he's doing. And I do feel I talked to even the students that are in dental school. I'm like, hey, have you heard about biological dentists? I really feel there needs, I'm part of that shift, you know, bringing that awareness. And a lot of it, I'm trying to educate the patient. So supply and demand. More patients are asking for this kind of treatment, but also I want to inspire dentists to not be afraid to step into this realm. And I think you do get sometimes a little bit of pushback. I know I'm there talking about the nervous system and bringing the science of it and why it's important. For you, I want to keep you like hum sustainable, human sustainability to do what you're doing, because it's hard to be around that six-hour-long surgeries that you're doing all the time. Yeah. So working on your nervous system and making sure that you can sustain, you know, providing this clinical excellence throughout your career.

SPEAKER_00 45:11

No, 100%. I started laughing because it's um, I remember I was giving a seminar once, I think it was like 300 dentists. I started talking about vitamin D, and a few of them started walking out. Wow. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 45:24

Well, I was at the Texas dentist, so I was done my speech. I go through a speaker scout event, and I sit beside this dentist. He's like, Oh, you're the uh the breath work girl or whatever. Yeah, I breathe. And I'm like, okay, buddy.

SPEAKER_00 45:37

Yeah, exactly. And that's where, you know, that that's where I take a step back. It's like, is it right to teach dentist or just start talking about this and let the patients and people hear this, and then they go back to their dentist and they're like, wait a second, and then the patients start questioning it. Yes, and when the patients start questioning it, now I did my job because before I was trying to teach dentists and it was getting nowhere. It was just pushback, pushback, push back. I was like, you know what? This is frustrating. I'm just gonna stick with it in what I'm doing. Patients flying from around the world, they're healing, they're enjoying their lives. I get the stories all the time. And and I was like, okay, this is perfect. And then one of the patients I was talking to, he's like, You're very frustrated. He's like, I never seen you like this. I'm like, Yeah, I was just giving you a seminar, and this is what happened. And he's like, We the people. I'm like, what are you talking about? You know, and we're just talking about guns and all this stuff, and he's like, We the people. I'm like, you're right.

SPEAKER_02 46:27

Yeah, we're gonna be like, that's what I'm doing with my podcast. I have a guest sharing the dental story and sharing your uh your knowledge. I have a woman next uh where she shares kind of her journey with biological dentistry, and it's just empowering the patients, awesome, you know, and the supply and demand. And I truly love because it's hard. I I am my good friend is Dr. Preya. She's the whole tooth dentist in Texas, and she's doing things very different, just like you. And sometimes it's hard for the patients to find the value in that because it's not covered by insurance or this and that. But I want to educate patients, there is so much value. Think of like where you want to be in your health journey 10 years from now, and this can be impacting uh your hormones, it could be impacting so much, you know. Caught, you know, for for uh, you know, Alzheimer's and dementia, where do you want to be? And the mouth could be, you know, with correlation to all that. So yeah, it's just about awareness.

SPEAKER_00 47:28

And and you said 10 years. I think I showed you when we were on the boat. I showed you a picture of me when I was 10 years ago.

SPEAKER_02 47:33

Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_00 47:34

I look way older.

SPEAKER_02 47:35

You look way older. You did.

SPEAKER_00 47:37

I think the photo's up on the wall here with me and the patients. I'm like, I'm never gonna be that guy. Like, detox is super important, right? You need to get the parasites out of you, the mold out of you, the metals out of you, the environmental toxins, so you can have a good quality of life.

SPEAKER_02 47:50

Yeah, and unfortunately, like you said, we live in an environment that is becoming more and more toxic, even with the EMFs. And so doing these protocols on a daily basis is so important. I, you know, I use the sauna, I have my PMF mats, the red light, yeah, breath, you know, and I'm very good with my nutrition for the most, you know, for the most part. Use peptides, you know, because I do feel they can help with the nervous system regulation and um they they help as long as you're detox, right?

SPEAKER_00 48:18

As long as you don't have a toxic environment, then they help. Yeah, I've noticed that actually. I've noticed that. Peptides are not gonna help you because you got so much other things to deal with.

SPEAKER_02 48:26

And yeah, people who get a lot of reactions, I've noticed that exactly.

SPEAKER_00 48:29

Yeah, yeah, yes. You can grow things that you don't want to grow, right? With doing the peptides if you're toxic internally, so you need to detox before you do the peptides, and then peptides are just gonna accelerate you and make you feel better and make you superhuman. But until you don't clean out your environment, then don't wake things up that are gonna wake up. I know.

SPEAKER_02 48:47

I always say people are always like, What do you do? What do you recommend for parasites? I actually step back even more. I said, number one, work on your nervous system because if you are continuously being on this sympathetic and you start all these protocols, I've been seeing people get adverse reactions. Like if I put them right away into um parasite cleanse, but their body is still in that fight and flight, they're gonna have a lot

Oxygen Airway And Provider Resilience

SPEAKER_02 49:10

of adverse reactions. So calming the nervous or alongside all of that really helps. Um, I don't know if you've seen that with your patients.

SPEAKER_00 49:18

Yeah, no, 100%. And I was gonna tell you, the way you started the we started the whole podcast with breath work, oxygen heals, right? What are we using ozone for? What are we getting to the site? We're healing the site with oxygen, right? Yes, and oxygen heals. So if we can't breathe properly, that's why one of the dentists was like, I breathe. I'm like, okay, you have it totally wrong, right? Oxygen is what's helping us heal. Without oxygen, that's the root cause of all disease, right? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 49:43

Oh, I've noticed it. I've been using the hyperbaric oxygen chamber, I use uh hydrogen tablets, and just with me doing breath work, I see how it's uh helping me heal and detox, and same with my kids. And so it is so important to have that quality oxygen, and that's why airway is equally important. Oh, I agree.

SPEAKER_00 50:04

And and what we find a lot with the airway is when we remove the toxins from the mouth, the patients first they lose so much weight, they their whole skin, they appear totally different, and they're like, I'm sleeping so much better. Like, uh and all of a sudden they're like, I don't need this uh stuff. I'm like, Well, you need to go to whoever prescribed it to you and talk to them about it because I'm your dentist, I'm not the one who prescribed this to you. But you look so much better, you're breathing better, you have more energy, you're gaining more muscle, which is great. But then, you know, talk to them to get you off of this or whatever you guys need to do or reduce the usage, right? Um so airway is huge. The biggest thing is airway, I feel like they skip that pyramid, right? The diet, nutrition, fitness, then the detox, and then they they don't do that first. They they go jump to the airway. You gotta do the baseline first. I agree. I agree. And unfortunately, you know, we live in a world where we want things so quickly, right? You know, people just want, I want this quick, I want this quick. So you want to just jump and do this, but you have all this other stuff to deal with. Fine, this is gonna work for you, but you're gonna crash and burn again.

SPEAKER_01 51:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 51:06

Because your foundation is not set. That that period that foundation needs to be perfected and it has to be followed. Yeah, right. That's the only way you're gonna survive in this toxic environment.

SPEAKER_02 51:15

Yeah, and we gotta have the patience, like you said, like for me too. It's a at least a year journey where we're detoxing heavy metals, mold, and parasites, and it's still there. There's still some things, but I was also noticing the conscious mind, shifting the mindsets is affecting the gut. And because I've learned just from me, my own career and own environment of being in a toxic environment affects your gut. And also, as a provider, you taking on everyone's fears, anxiety over time. Like, what's your practice to not take those on? Because it's called mirror neurons, the close proximity. Because when I was with just an example, living with my husband when he was at a time, you know, spiraling, you know, addictions and um neurologically, like I was almost like afraid because he was just wasn't thinking straight, you know, and buying all these guns, the security cameras, like it was just in like um in panic almost. And and so it created a lot of anxiety for me and to the point I was eating clean, always exercising. That's all I've always studied health my whole lifetime, I feel, you know, really being interested in it. I started having gut issues to the point where I just severe acid reflex. And so I do understand a close proximity to the environment like that, and I take it on, it affects your gut. So, as a provider for you to take on that stress and fears that many patients have, what do you do to protect yourself?

SPEAKER_00 52:44

Yeah, so every day I have my morning routine and I it's a strict routine. I don't leave the house. I use PMF, I use a sauna, and I have to get my workout in. So it's like I have and I'm drinking a lot of fluid. So I'm taking my salts, I'm taking my electrolytes and a lot of water before I even sit on the PMF, like lay on it. So I'm getting a lot of nutrients in me. And then the sauna, I'm sweating it out, and I'm peeing a lot. So I have to do the same things that I tell patients to do. And by doing that, I'm constantly detoxing myself. Because these surgeries, I learned that from Dr. Jerry Tennant. He got really sick and he was an eye doctor, and he got really sick because he's using a laser. I'm like, okay, well, I use a laser. And I I just I have a thing of putting things together really quickly. I was like, well, I use a laser, I'm cleaning out the jawbone. These masks are crap, they're not protecting us. And if I use an N95 mask and try to work, I'll pass out because it's like you know, the oxygen, yeah, yeah. So it's like, um, and I need my goggles to see because I need to make sure I'm doing the best I can for the patient. Uh, it's very detailed, right? That's the technology aspect of it. But if I'm removing some of these deadliest pathogens known to man that are harbored in the jawbone, then I'm gonna get contaminated. I need to detox myself. So every day I have to detox.

SPEAKER_02 53:57

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 53:58

And just staying on the on my supplement.

SPEAKER_02 54:00

So creating like such a strong container. I have to. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 54:05

And you can stack it. So it's like you can do a lot, like breath work while you're on the PMF, like the wimp off technique, the box breathing. I do that when I'm in the cold plunge. So it's like the box breathing, do that a few times. It's it's my three-minute marks that I'm then I could jump out, you know. But you have to, you have to make yourself very resilient. But I do feel like if you have the right nutrition, um, which is diet, then your your body becomes very resilient when you do these things additional because the fitness keeps you intact and you can do a lot more. And that's one of the reasons why I could do surgery. Like this this week was insane with surgeries, but I'm still going and I could keep going.

SPEAKER_02 54:38

So you can keep going, which is so important. We got to keep you going. And uh because they're just I know they're uh they're not dentists are not all the same at this point, you know. And uh my big passion is to bring that awareness to dentists, and if they're starting to feel, you know, the numbness or you know, more forgetful, because oftentimes those are like, well, I'm just getting older, or I have to, you know, I'm busy, I'm stressed, I'm this. So they just kind of um those small little signs, they're like, Oh, I I don't know, they they put it to the

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SPEAKER_02 55:10

side, but it's worth looking. And I encourage other dentists to maybe be open-minded, maybe go, like you said, I love shadowing, you know, shadowing another biological dentist and start learning about maybe incorporating this into your own practice because I know patients are starting to ask for this care and deep rooted. And uh I so I'm just honored to have you on. I'm honored that you took the time today because we connected on so many levels. And for me, it's sharing my story, my husband. I don't want another dentist who has a family, two young children, die because of this information. Because I've tittoe around it. I've I've been told some people have had deaths, you know, threats because they're bringing this up about amalgams and mercury, you know. So I I really I'm not being quiet anymore. This happened to my family, and I know it could possibly happen to somebody else's family, and they're being lost in the system. So just check, check your heavy metals. You're a provider right now, you've been working with amalgams, check. It's worth it, right? And it's worth it for your family. And if you they're planning on having kids, that's the most important part to what do you want to pass on to your children? I know in my book I talk about for you know, if you're planning to have kids, as uh wife and husband, start detoxing at least three to six months prior. Yeah, that the toxins, because that's what you're passing on. Unfortunately, that's 100%.

SPEAKER_00 56:45

Yeah, no, and I love your passion. That's why we connect, because this is a passion of mine. And you know, my whole thing is to dentists. I'm like, just listen, like if I'm doing it and you could see everything, just follow it. Like, there's no reason why not to follow it. Either you're gonna be as successful or more successful, and I want you to be more successful, right? That's and I think do you think it's an identity thing?

SPEAKER_02 57:03

Because I know there's uh it's what they've been taught and what they've been doing, and almost like for you, it's like, oh, I did something wrong, and that would be kind of uh create some shame or guilt, but it's okay. You did the best you could, like you said, there's a time and place for root canals, but now we know more. And now, like you do the ceramic um implants, right? And so, yeah, those cost more, but it's your ethics too, right? You know what you're putting in the mouth, it's not another titanium metal, and so it's also comes back to the why, why you became a dentist for the first point, and continue that purpose. If we if shifted now, the industry is shifting. And I love that actually, we've got to mention, I did mention it in the intro, but you're gonna be part of the documentary by all dentistry. And I was so excited about this when Anthony showed me this when he I got invited to Shield documentary and cons. Then he shows me the dentistry. I said, That's it, I have to be there because I know I'm part of the shift. And in fact, this week I got on a meeting and they're gonna put me part of the the documentary as well.

SPEAKER_00 58:15

Yes, I spoke to them about it. Okay, awesome.

SPEAKER_02 58:17

I did actually, well, I had last week and they told me that they were done filming. And I was like, and then I was like, oh, I really felt like I needed to be on there. And then finally I just reached out one more time, no worth, you know, worth asking. And I said, here's my story, and here's why I think it's imperative that I can reach globally, and I do feel to be part of this shift. And um, so yeah, so I I will be.

SPEAKER_00 58:41

I'm glad you're on board. Yeah, I'm glad because it, you know, they started off a very small like, hey, this let's record a record a surgery, and then then it blossomed into this whole thing, right? So ideas started from like a very tiny little thing because we just had mutual patients who were at the right place at the right time. Again, it's all it just all connects a dot.

SPEAKER_02 58:59

Well, yeah, like even how I like for example, I didn't meet you when I because I was podcasting the first day in cons, and then it was the premiere, and I really didn't connect with see you. You know, there's 300 and some people. And I I knew there was a boat event, a big yacht event, and we had the choice to choose that. And I was like, yeah, oh my gosh, it'd be such a great experience. And but then I was like, I don't know, should we do something else? I just prayed on it, and actually, there was always I get these little signs when I pray on it. I get little signs, and I saw this this little video of a boat. I'm like, that's my sign. I need to be on there. And I go on this boat, and the the first I meet, actually, while we're looking for this boat, I meet you and Dr. Karandi. Yep. And then I go on this boat, and half the boat are dentists.

SPEAKER_00 59:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 59:48

I was like, okay, God, I see where you are.

SPEAKER_00 59:52

Yep, exactly. No, and he wasn't gonna go on it either. And the Karandi, Dr. Karande was like, hey, just go, just go. I'm like, okay, you know, because I had other friends there, I was like, hey, gonna hang out, and then all these plans and shifted. So he's like, hey, just go. I'm like, okay, I'll just go. And then we met. Yeah, and then we met.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:06

So there's no coincidence that we met. I'll have Dr. Grande on as well. Really love connecting with him. Uh, I'll have the Eva as well, and uh the I was just so connected. And there's something about interpersonal face-to-face where we could talk. You get to meet my family. Uh, you you get to see my big why. You know, this is not, I'm not doing this for the lights, the cameras, the show. This I'm utilizing as a platform I can reach more globally, and I know that. And then same being on this documentary will allow me to reach uh many more uh globally worldwide. And I'm so grateful to be part of this team. So I feel like we could talk forever. Maybe we'll connect again another time, maybe through my surgery. You know, we could document that. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:50

We can film it, we can talk about it. You'll you'll follow with Jeremy in a few weeks.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:54

Yes, yeah, it'll be so good. But if people want to uh come fly in to work with you, you're in Long Island, uh, maybe you know, give out your information. We'll have it in the show notes, but tell people how they can follow you.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:05

Yeah, they can go to toothandbody.com and then the the handle they can follow is Dr. D uh D R J and then Gandhi G-A-N-D-H-I. So Dr. J Gandhi. Yeah, that's the Instagram and the the Twitter and all the handles. Yeah, I love the information. Yeah, toothandbody.com has all the videos and everything, explains everything there.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:23

So I love that. Well, I such an honor, and uh I can't wait to see you again and see your incredible work and keep uh I hope you know you keep yourself so strong, connected to just do this work. It's incredible work that you're doing and you're saving people's lives. And I am so honored to call you now a friend, so that I can just speed dial when I need to.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:47

Yes, absolutely. Thank you for spreading the word because we need people like you spreading this. So, and I'm glad you're on the documentary because I spoke with Anthony about it, so I'm glad. Okay, great.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:56

Yes, I'm deeply honored. Yeah, we're shooting uh in October, so I'm really excited, which is great. Thank you all right, thank you so much.