EP 63: The Weird Energy Source That Actually Works
What if beef is not the problem, but how we farm it is? This episode breaks down how regenerative agriculture and regenerative ranching can shift the climate conversation by focusing on better grazing and smarter manure management. We explore rotational grazing in simple terms and how it supports soil health, plant regrowth, and microbial balance. We also look at how captured manure can be converted into renewable natural gas and nutrient-rich soil inputs that improve the whole farm system. ...
What if beef is not the problem, but how we farm it is?
This episode breaks down how regenerative agriculture and regenerative ranching can shift the climate conversation by focusing on better grazing and smarter manure management.
We explore rotational grazing in simple terms and how it supports soil health, plant regrowth, and microbial balance. We also look at how captured manure can be converted into renewable natural gas and nutrient-rich soil inputs that improve the whole farm system.
The conversation also covers nutrition, including why beef is a dense source of protein, amino acids, and nutrients linked to strength, recovery, and longevity, plus what changes when it is removed from the diet.
If you care about food systems, soil health, and real nutrition, this episode brings it together. Subscribe, share it, and leave a review with your biggest question about regenerative farming.
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00:00 - Can Beef Lower Emissions?
00:55 - Manure Collection And Slatted Barns
01:45 - Scaling Regenerative Ranching With Profit
03:18 - Why Beef Still Wins On Nutrition
04:55 - Personal Diet Experiments And Beef Benefits
Can Beef Lower Emissions?
SPEAKER_01The beef industry is a big proponent of emissions, right? And so with regenerative agriculture, it's gonna actually lower the emissions. Is that correct?
SPEAKER_00Well, yes, absolutely it can. And so at permanent farming, we believe that um um beef cattle should be in two places on a regeneratively um managed ranch, so uh rotational regenerative grazing, like we talked about, and that's really um moving the animals and intentionally to uh create that biologically active status where um you're moving them before they eat all the roots uh from from the plants and move them onto a next pasture uh to eat until the plant gets down to a certain height, and then you rotate them to another pasture, and that movement and that biological activity is really what drives regenerative ranching and regenerative grazing practices.
Manure Collection And Slatted Barns
SPEAKER_00The other place we believe beef cattle should be is instead of an outdoor pen on dirt where the manure just drops and and uh can be used as compost material. Uh we we believe that they should be in a slatted floor-covered barn, uh, a slatted floor with rubber matting on top for cattle comfort. But when we do that, we can collect all of that manure freshly daily and convert that into both renewable natural gas, methane, um, and and a high-quality soil fertility product, a soil amendment product that really acts as food for microbes in the soils, which drives uh improving those soils. And so the healthier the soil, the healthier the plant, the healthier for us as human beings.
SPEAKER_01I love that.
Scaling Regenerative Ranching With Profit
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I love that. I want more of that. So now at this point, how can we spread that for more farmers, like integrate that? Like, you know, obviously there's probably a cost to changing the way they're do doing things. So are you providing some kind of is the government helping with incentives for farmers to be able to integrate regenerative agriculture or how how we can convert more people, more farmers to this kind of farming?
SPEAKER_00Well, I do believe that um capitalism is one of our planet's greatest problem-solving mechanisms, and the reality is um, you know, the definition of insanity is expecting different results by doing things the same way. We have to do things a little bit differently. And so, um, like I had mentioned, rather than the conventional model or the historical model of going to ranch, to feed yard, to processor, um we need more regenerative uh ranching practices. We need to have uh more money available for ranchers to grow their herds. And right now, the United States is in its has its lowest herd population in the last 75 years. In order to have more animals born on these ranches, we we need to not only um uh it's not a matter of fighting over who gets the biggest piece of the pie. We got to make the pie bigger by creating new revenue streams. In our case, it happens to be through uh producing um renewable natural gas and soil fertility out of a waste product that exists today.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
Why Beef Still Wins On Nutrition
SPEAKER_01And now are you finding that it has been lower just because the demand has been lower or just what's been out in the media saying, oh, eat less red meat, or you know, and you know, there's controversy sometimes about that. Is that do you think that plays a role or a part in that?
SPEAKER_00Well, I think the positive thing is people continue to buy beef.
SPEAKER_01Yes, oh yeah, I love it.
SPEAKER_00Um you know, it we do believe that it's the most nutrient-dense animal protein um that exists, and and uh everything's in a balance. Yes, you know.
SPEAKER_01Um I I love that you bring that up because I've been really curious. Uh and then I'm always a science project with my own body and my health. And I have I've tried it it all. I've gone through raw diets, uh whole plant diets, and all these things just to see how my body reacts. Because I'm very much intuitively heal my body. I feel like my body will tell me what I need. That's where I'm at that part. I actually will sometimes pray on it, listen. It's like, oh, you need more magnesium, you need more. It will actually let me know, but it's also blending science, you know, what's out there with Eastern medicine and Western medicine as well. I'm not, you know, black and white on both, but what I have noticed is that I my body does crave beef and good quality beef. And so I started deep diving about as to what's in beef and what's um, I've taken many nutritional classes, I've talked with other doctors. In fact, I brought my son to a brain clinic here locally, and we did brain scans, and then they talk about nutrition and what to add and the amino acids, the omegas, and and uh as a woman in her 40s
Personal Diet Experiments And Beef Benefits
SPEAKER_01and 45, like just the creatine and all that. Well, that's what beef has. All the top qualities. Actually, because I don't want to miss a thing, I have actually downloaded everything from uh, you know, other platforms, other doctors that actually really explain all and I and you've seen the new food food pyramid that was released recently. Yes, I I'm really, really excited about that. And I've noticed that with just my body. Actually, I went to um film uh documentary series, Writer's Island, and they have the most incredible food cooked for us every single day. Just farmed a table. But one thing they did not have for the whole week was beef. And I felt my energy and all that by the end of the week. I was really lacking, I was really craving it. So it's really interesting. They had everything else, like from fish, chicken, and whatnot. But it's it's something I definitely think, you know, depending on everybody, I'm not prescribing anything, but here's the benefits. Here's what I have that I definitely like it's a complete protein, all nine essential amino acids, creatine, which now that's being a big supplement, you know, especially they're saying for women, you know, I know for me, that's why I train and build muscle for bone strength, longevity, even, you know, just I do a lot of uh yoga and uh stretching and just more of longevity, you know, and um and keeping that muscle.