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Welcome back to Not Alone.
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Why I use podcasting is because I'm trying to bring people that are usually not in front of the camera, but needs to be, needs to be heard.
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Their voice needs to be heard, but there's always fear that comes up to be in front of the camera because there's some vulnerability, and we're our own worst critic when we get in front of the camera.
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So I just want to thank you for listening today.
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And today I have a wonderful friend.
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Uh, and that's helped me in my own life and my children.
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And I know will be a great teacher for my kids as well.
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But I I'm gonna read her intro, and normally I just kind of flow, but I think it really depicts exactly who she is and what we're you're gonna listen to today.
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Her name is Joyce Brinton, is a gifted healer and a teacher, and is the founder of both Healing Evolution and the Muscle Testing Academy.
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She is a wife, a mother of four, a grandmother of 14 grandchildren, with decades of experience helping people uncover and release the emotional and energetic blocks behind illness.
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Joyce has guided thousands through profound transformation in their health, relationships, and soul purposes.
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In her work, Joyce combines intuitive energy, cleansing, muscle testing, and spiritual truth to help clients heal what the body is trying to say through its pain, fatigue, or disease.
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Her approach is both gentle and disruptive, revealing the unconscious resistance that keeps people sick, stuck, and afraid of their divine gifts.
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Joyce has a master's degree in counseling psychology and lives in Arizona with her husband, Steve, where they run their healing practice together, teach workshops, and enjoy a life guided by spirit, laughter, and love.
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And so it's such an honor to have Joyce today as she is a dear friend.
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And also, as you might know, and I had a guest, Kira Brinton.
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This is her daughter as well.
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And so welcome.
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I'm so excited to have you on.
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Thank you.
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Yes.
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I'm so excited because you just wrote your book, Stuck.
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And I really wanted to finish before I came on today as a guest, but I love it.
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I I really can't put it down.
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I wanted to find more time to read it, but I feel you really touch on why people get so stuck and stay in that fear and how to release it.
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And your work is so powerful.
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And I know because I've worked with you, I know you've come to my home too, and the energy was kind of stuck energy in my home and how to clear that.
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You've helped my children learn about energy and how to release in and learn to protect their energies as well.
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So for the listeners out there that may have not ever worked with energy work and maybe explain what that is.
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Well, basically, um like I just had a recently had a new client and new to all of this, but she's very sensitive to energies.
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And so I just explain to people, it's like our energy is like the windows around our body.
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And so when I'm cleaning energy, I'm just cleaning the mud off your windows.
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Because they get muddy, they get dirty.
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You know, and we have chakras.
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Some people don't believe in those, but we have chakras, which are like organs on the outside of the body.
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And so those chakras also get really dirty.
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And they get dirty because of the energy that we're around, but also from our thoughts.
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Energy is created from these up here.
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And so when we have negative thought patterns and we have stuff that goes on in our brain that wants to stop us, or judgments, blames, shame, any of that stuff, fears, any of that that goes on in our brain also then comes out into our energy field.
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So your thoughts, so when we're spiraling in the shame of especially a lot of people I find, spiral in the past.
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Yeah.
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Right?
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And they revisit it and revisit it.
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And it just that energy is so heavy.
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Yes.
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And so that's what creates energy.
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You know, so those negative thoughts create a negative energy around you.
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Do you ever remember the old peanuts cartoon?
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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And do you remember, I think his name was Dustpin?
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Yes.
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It's kind of like what our energy feels like.
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Right.
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You know, he was a constant little tornado of dust around him.
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That's kind of like when people go down that dark hole spiral, that's what we're creating around us in our energy.
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And then almost if you're always in that energy, you're kind of attracting that energy all the time.
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Exactly.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Just collecting it everywhere you go.
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And for a lot of people, they don't know they're so sensitive to energy.
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Oh, for sure.
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For a long time, I didn't know.
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I didn't call it.
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I just was like, oh, it seems to be.
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I walk into a room and I'm like, I can feel something, but I don't, I don't know what it is.
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My brain can't make up what that feeling is.
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But now I know when I'm feeling that I'm feeling someone's energy.
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Or or we're off in the heart coherence where I feel a lot of times now they're they're fear, like living in so much fear, and there is an energetic force about that.
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Yeah.
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But whereas I'm around someone that is so calm and a lot of light, I feel that too.
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Yeah.
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You know?
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And so I think your work bringing that awareness for people because isn't it?
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What's the is it a radius almost like this?
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Everyone's is different.
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It is different.
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We have an inner aura and we have an outer aura.
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I see.
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And so the outer aura is, of course, further than the inner aura.
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But um, yeah, so it just varies.
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Every person has a different.
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Sometimes people couldn't be clear out the out the room, you know, their aura is just huge.
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So it just varies.
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And so you work alongside people to help them become aware of their environment and maybe how that's affecting their energies because how that affects their energies, that's on a cellular level as well, right?
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And affects their health, like you said.
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Yeah.
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So a lot of times you by clearing their stuck energies, you're clearing some illnesses.
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Can you are you able to talk about certain clients where you've seen that shift or you've seen them uh become healthier?
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Oh, yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's been fun.
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Yeah.
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That's why I love what I do.
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I know.
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Well, I'd love for you to share.
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Yeah.
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If you can't I always say poopy thoughts create poopy energy, which sets in the body and makes us sick.
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And so um, I had a new client recently that just met me from you know, Facebook ad kind of thing.
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And um she's been sick since she was a teenager.
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And um a lot of different illnesses, a lot of body pain.
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She's a mom, she's busy, but can't function really well.
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And um just in my first encounter with her, discovered that she has gifts of healing and gifts of seeing and feeling energy, and she has shut it down.
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She also sees spirits, you know.
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Um, those are all gifts that she just shut down because it freaked her out.
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She didn't know what to do with it.
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I've heard that a lot.
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Actually, I've heard that from some friends.
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They're like, oh, when I was a child, I would see spirit and it would scare me, or they would not, you know, if they bring it up to a parent, they say, Well, don't talk about that.
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People think, Oh, you're gonna be crazy, you know.
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So don't talk about it.
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So it was almost, yeah.
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So you're never um diving into those gifts any further.
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You shut them out, right?
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Yeah.
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So by shutting that down, then she also, you know, has her own negative self-talk about who she is, what she's about.
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And it's just gone internal.
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You know, that energy can sit outside so long before it comes into the body.
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And that's why doctors can't don't have answers.
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Yes.
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You know, because they'll do all the tests and they'll do everything they can to try and figure out what's wrong and they can't figure it out.
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So they send them on home with a bunch of medication.
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Yeah.
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Try this.
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Try this for the symptom that they're feeling.
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Yeah, yes, I've seen that a lot, actually.
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In fact, I have as some friends have, you know, um had cancer diagnosis, but they've teaching the doctors almost like just because of their faith and their positive and their thoughts.
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Yeah, they were even telling the doctors, hey, can you not call it the devil something when they're getting chemo?
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I'm like, don't call it that.
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Just, you know, call it that this is gonna be healing for me.
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This is gonna be good.
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Changing the language, changing the words is so important in a people's healing.
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Yeah.
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And I love that you're teaching people that how important their thoughts are and their energies.
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I know some of the techniques you were teaching my kids is that kind of when you come home from school is like cutting the line, you know, from anything you had picked up.
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Yeah.
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And energetically cutting the line and make sure clean energies.
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Is there uh other tools that you recommend people that uh to do on a daily basis?
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Well, I think one thing I and I teach is it's uh there's a psychological tool called ABC therapy, and it names what's happened in life and then what we say about it.
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And so when people have a really poor trauma, awful experience in life, they immediately make something, they make a meaning out of it and they apply language to it.
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And they immediately say something's wrong with me, or I did something wrong, or I was bad, that such a horrible thing would happen to me.
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And so just even that alone, being able to name what did you say about what happened.
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Because what happens to us in life, I know this sounds weird, but what happens happens to us in life doesn't matter.
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No matter how painful it was.
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It's what we've said about it that causes our suffering.
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Okay, yes, and so it's what we've said about it, which is all lies.
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You know, what we've said about it is not the truths.
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The truths are this happened, you know, like you experienced a traumatic experience with your husband, you know.
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And so that was your trauma.
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And so then whatever you said about it, like what could I have done to save him, or what could I have done to maybe help him, or you know, those kind of things, conversations are really lies because it's not ours.
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Yeah.
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And yet we take it on like it is, and we believe it's true.
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Yeah, we create these illusions, yeah, right?
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Create a big story.
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Big story.
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Yeah.
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So that's I try and help people to identify those things at that, just that alone.
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If you can walk away and say, okay, here's what happened in my life, but here's what I said about it, and that's not a lie, then I teach forgiveness.
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I do teach people to forgive themselves, forgive people around them.
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Um, and then I teach people, of course, the solar plexus are here to cut the cords.
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Um, whenever you've had any any interaction with people, good or bad.
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Yeah, because I guess for a lot of the traumas, they're they are really awful.
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Yeah.
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They're really hard.
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And so, of course, they're gonna be like, oh my gosh, this happened to me and it's reliving.
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So to shift that perspective, okay, well, we we almost like we can't change that now, but it's affecting your health.
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Yeah.
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So how we can repurpose it kind of in your mind, that story, you know, and see it as okay, maybe as hard as that is, and I know I've done that work for myself, and this is gonna be hard for people to hear, is like, okay, I could see it as like, okay, this was a gift in my life, unfortunately.
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Yet the way my husband died, but they I I I know I had tried everything.
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And there's a bigger, maybe, purpose along the way, you know, that I don't know.
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Right.
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That my children lost their father at six and eight years old.
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Yeah, that's a lot of pain that they have to endure at a young age, a lot of trauma.
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But maybe we'll we're gonna pivot it and say, okay, God knew you were strong, and there's a bigger purpose.
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Maybe you're gonna be able to touch so many other kids that have gone through similar traumas and how you are such a light to them now.
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So that's hard.
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I'm at a place I can do that because I've done a lot a lot, he could do a lot of work.
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Yeah, you said work with people like yourself who can help you forgive.
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Have forgive yourself.
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Like a lot of times, suicide survivors, I think they can't forgive themselves for never being able to reach that person and save them.
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Yes, right?
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Yes, and they kind of stay in that that shame and that guilt, and and that's all so painful.
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Yeah.
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So I think it's important work for you to bring that awareness.
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And do you find, because you know, I live, I my kids go to a Christian school and I I live in Christian community and I go to a church.
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Do you find sometimes religion are afraid of this kind of work when you just talk about energy work?
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But I think it's so important to be open to understanding what that is, because I I do feel Jesus talk about consciousness and your temple and how to take care of it.
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So can you say how you can be that bridge?
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Um, I guess just the way I I am the bridge to that, because I'm a Christian and I believe in God and Christ, and and I am not um apologetic about it.
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I let people know when they work with me, you know.
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And if they don't have that belief, it's okay.
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I can still work with them, it's not a problem.
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I actually had a guy who had liver cancer, and um uh he was his wife was a PA, and so she sent him to see me.
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Plus, they were doing traditional medicine, plus, you know, she says, let's go to all the woo-woo people too, you know.
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And so um, when I asked him, what is your belief in a higher power at all?
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And he says, I have no belief on any higher power.
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I said, nothing.
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And he said, No.
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I said, What's your purpose for living?
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He said, My children, his younger children.
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I said, Okay, then we'll just do everything in the name of your children, family, you know, because that for him was what resonated with his heart.
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So for for anybody who uh doesn't believe the way I believe, it's okay.
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It still works.
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Yeah.
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Because they but they have to have a reason, a reason to move forward, a move on.
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Um and sometimes it's just they're in so much pain, yeah, that it's like I I gotta figure out something, I gotta find something higher than me because I can't live in this pain forever.
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In this pain, yeah.
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And you find with when it is so much pain, there's so much they're they're not wanting to confront like these truths that they're hiding, and that's why they're sitting in that pain.
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And why do you think it is so hard for some people to see their truth?
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Like, for example, I know my husband was like coming to terms that yeah, he was right now an addict and alcoholic, and you know, but he's his doctor, and there's so much shame and guilt and coming forward in that.
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Whereas the people around him would just still see him as that wonderful man and love him.
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And I think the people sit in that shame if they came out with their truth.
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So, how do you work with people to try and uh you know allow themselves to see their truth?
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I think you're probably your book brings that awareness a lot, you know.
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But how do you um are you just more straightforward with them, like very clear, or how do you go about it?
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Well, and that's where I bring in muscle testing because the muscle testing's been around forever, it's a form of applied applied kinesiology.
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So I actually have my clients sit in a chair, a recliner chair, I push on their arm.
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Your arm remains strong to truth, it goes weak to not truth.
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Your body knows it's like you're your own lie detector.
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Okay, and so I I don't, I mean, I came from a therapy and counseling background.
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I left that years ago because this is just so much more effective, because we get to the truth really fast.
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Like I could sit and talk to somebody in therapy for months and years, and we just kind of go in circles because people believe what they're telling themselves, so they think they're telling themselves the truth.
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But when I muscle test them and say, Is that the truth?
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And their arm goes weak, it's like, oh, that's not the truth.
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And then you're kind of bringing it up.
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So then it probably And then they know, they're like, Oh wow, that's kind of crazy.
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That that's a lie.
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And I said, Yeah, you've been telling yourself a lie for a long time.
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And then do that, does it help them be like comfortable, be like, okay, yeah, maybe I've been creating this illusion of around this?
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Yes, then they become aware of, oh, okay, maybe that's true.
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You know, and the guy that had the cancer, he's two years in remission now.
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And um, they told him he was gonna die.
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Yeah, you know, I had another guy that they told him he needed a liver transplant, worked with him for a year, and he doesn't need a transplant.
00:17:00.960 --> 00:17:06.160
And um I had a woman who had uh what do you call it?
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Mascular degeneration in the eyes.
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She was getting shots in the eyeballs.
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And they said that would be every day, yeah, maybe every month for the rest of her life, right?
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Couldn't drive, her kids had to drive her everywhere.
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And her first session with me, the first thing I asked her is, What don't you want to see?
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To see, yes, right?
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Yes.
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And she's like, um, I don't know.
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You know, come to find out and talking to her, she grew up in a cult and um she left it as a teenager.
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And so there was a lot of pain in her past that she left that she just shoved under.
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But it was causing her issues in her body because she refused to see it.
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To see it.
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And oftentimes we do that for safety, right?
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We say we're like, oh, I don't want to revisit it's too painful.
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I don't want to revisit it.
00:17:46.880 --> 00:17:50.880
Yeah, it's too painful, but it's stored in your fascia, in your body, right?
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And so, and that's your body when it's showing up with illness like that, like for the liver cancer, the eye, your body's like, okay, you can't avoid it anymore.
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I'm showing up now, right?
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And I saw that in my own body, actually, with the system of my vocal cord.
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It's like, oh, gotta use your voice.
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Yeah.
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Guess speak up with the truth.
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Yeah.
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Right.
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And no more hiding.
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And so that was clear.
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Yes.
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And that's why now I'm so I don't want people to wait till they get these diagnoses.
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And because of course, the diagnosis creates more fear.
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Oh, absolutely.
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They buy into it.
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Yes.
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They immediately they get a diagnosis, they go home and start researching it, and like, oh my gosh, yeah, I do have that symptom.
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Oh my gosh, maybe I do have that.
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Maybe, you know, I even find that with people who say, Oh, I'm bipolar or I'm this.
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And I'm going, yeah, well, let's muscle test it and see.
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Yes.
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And they're not.
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Yeah.
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They've just bought that because someone told them that.
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And sometimes they if people become so so comfortable being in these illnesses, and that's all they know, and then comfort and avoids the truth, or become such great liars because that helps them avoid the truth completely.
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Right.
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And now they don't even know what's true and whatnot, right?
00:19:02.240 --> 00:19:04.880
They just completely believe this these big illusions.
00:19:04.960 --> 00:19:16.880
And that's why I think it this kind of work opening up the world to this kind of work because it's really not that I feel like people are coming, maybe I'm wrong to you because they've tried all the things, right?
00:19:17.119 --> 00:19:17.920
They've they saw all the special.
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I'm usually their last resort.
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Yeah, the last resort.
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I'll try anything, you know.
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I'll go see this weird lady.
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Yeah.
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And but then that's what work, I would say that's what it would started with.
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Yeah.
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You know, getting to the root cause is a lot of it is emotional when we're causing.
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I'm now I've had enough guests to confirm that.
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I lived it and I saw where it can go with my husband.
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Yeah.
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And so that's why I want guests on you, you be more busy getting out there.
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There's more people doing this kind of work.
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This is the first line of help that you go for.
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Yeah.
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Right.
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Because even with you, like my daughter, she came to your book launch and wow, she really.
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It resonates with what you do.
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And I know you can really help my kids as well.
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Cause I know it's still ingrained in their bodies as well, the traumas.
00:20:09.759 --> 00:20:15.519
Even I'm sitting with my son bedtime last night and he mentioned a past trauma.
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And I was like, whoa, wow, he must have been like three years old.
00:20:18.240 --> 00:20:19.759
And I'm like, oh, he remembers that.
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And he hadn't talked about that.
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Yeah.
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You know, and it was a part of dad being pretty abusive, you know, to him.
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And it caused me a lot of anxiety.
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And I was like, oh, my son, he remembers that.
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I was really shocked that he brought it up.
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He's like, oh, because at first it started, well, I miss dad.
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Yeah.
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And then it was like, oh, but I don't miss when he did that.
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And I was like, oh, wow.
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Which probably triggered the part of you that said, I didn't protect him.
00:20:45.279 --> 00:20:45.519
Yes.
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Oh, yes.
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Yes.
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Oh, yeah.
00:20:47.680 --> 00:20:48.720
Which is also another story.
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Yes.
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Like, oh, yes.
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We can do what we can do, but you know, we can't always be there every second.
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And so yeah.
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Exactly.
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And it we wish I could have protected him.
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And I actually I pride myself like, okay, if I stay in this relationship, even though it's toxic, I have more control.
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I protect my kids more.
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Because if he had one week on, one week off, oh my gosh, who knows?
00:21:07.599 --> 00:21:09.119
Yeah, I've learned I've heard that over and over.
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Right?
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Yes.
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And and in, but in the same way, I have to remember that God can be their protector.
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And but also the same time, that environment was also so toxic for my kids to stay in.
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Because I would say to parents, oh, you you want to stay until the kids are grown or the kids are really young.
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I don't want to cause trauma.
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Can you imagine the energy in a home?
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Yes.
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The energy probably in my home in Alaska was so toxic for my kids' nervous system.
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And I still trying to get them to recover.
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I know their nervous system is still almost on the on the edge all the time because, you know, environments is constantly, you know, school and the pressures and this, you know, all of that.
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But it how important to incorporate this kind of work on it for me on a daily basis as well.
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You know, you came to my home and we cleared my home's energy and uh with things that are ancient uh practices that Jesus would do.
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Yeah, you know, and so having the incense, having uh the music to shift all that energy and to bless our bodies and to pray can shift the entire room.
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Sure.
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Right?
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We've heard uh uh stories of where okay, you feel you're in danger.
00:22:28.559 --> 00:22:35.920
Well, okay, let's let's pray and let's pray and and create how we can change the coherence of people's heart around us.
00:22:36.079 --> 00:22:39.200
Yeah, you know, there's stories like that in the Bible, right?
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So this is where I'm so passionate about what you do.
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And I really want more people to be at the first line of the fence.
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Yes, yeah, oh yeah, I do too, because they would heal so much quicker.
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Yes, and they wouldn't have to go through the suffering they're going through.
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Yes, you know, but because it's not conventional or what people normally think of, you know.
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But I also think maybe I'm wrong, but the people who are doing this, like yourself, uh, fear talking more about it because they fear what people will think about them, and and so they've kind of done it more underground for so long because there was fear of this judgment or not understanding.
00:23:26.799 --> 00:23:41.200
But that's why if we use media, get you on more uh podcasts, get you on TV, get your own show doing this, you know, and talking about maybe your own show podcast where you have each patient that have now worked through that.
00:23:41.359 --> 00:23:43.200
So you now you have their stories.
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Nobody can take away people's stories.
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Right, right?
00:23:46.319 --> 00:23:50.079
Right, and so you can start building that now.
00:23:50.559 --> 00:23:58.079
It made me think about I have a young man, I don't know what he is, 2023, something but he's been told his whole life he was on the spectrum of autism.
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So he's believed that he was.
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I don't know if he's ever had testing done or anything, but he's believed he was, just because his speech was a little slow and he was not brilliant at school, you know.
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He's not autistic.
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We've muscle tested it.
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And he has taken my classes and he's just doing phenomenal.
00:24:20.960 --> 00:24:24.640
And you know, he's told you couldn't get a job, and he's got a job.
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He's you know, he's functioning life.
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He's a he's a what do you call him?
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A Marvel hero, superhero kind of dude.
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He makes costumes because he's fun.
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Yeah, I love that.
00:24:35.279 --> 00:24:42.240
Yeah, and um it's just really fun to watch him blossom, yeah, and and grow into who he really is.
00:24:42.400 --> 00:24:44.799
Yeah, because his whole life he was told, no, you're spectral.
00:24:45.039 --> 00:24:47.759
Well, how often that's why sometimes I really don't like people going to my children.
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You're so much like this.
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I'm like, don't say that.
00:24:50.160 --> 00:24:50.960
Right, don't label them.
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Don't label them.
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I really am not about that either.
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Because then they start, because think about how many kids were growing up, maybe maybe from a teacher saying, You're not very smart or you're not very good at this.
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Right.
00:25:02.319 --> 00:25:03.279
So then you start believing it.
00:25:03.440 --> 00:25:04.240
Yes, oh yeah, right?
00:25:04.559 --> 00:25:10.240
You're like, okay, well, I'm never gonna be very good at this, so I'm not gonna go, or I'm never gonna go to college because I'm I'm dumb, you know.
00:25:10.400 --> 00:25:10.720
Yes.
00:25:10.960 --> 00:25:17.839
So you you limit, but let's change shift that for people and say, No, I'm gonna prove them wrong.
00:25:18.000 --> 00:25:19.680
Yeah, you know, I'm gonna prove them wrong.
00:25:19.759 --> 00:25:22.720
And I you can change your narrative just through your thoughts.
00:25:22.960 --> 00:25:24.640
And we change it even with forgiveness.
00:25:24.960 --> 00:25:26.880
Yeah, you know, that's I mean, that's what I found.
00:25:27.039 --> 00:25:31.039
I grew up thinking I wasn't very smart, and my brother was very smart, two years older.
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He was a beautiful writer, he was a PR man, he did everything.
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And so I always thought, and he's a writer.
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I always thought he's gonna be the one to write the books.
00:25:40.400 --> 00:25:45.759
And I wrote my first book, I found myself in China from an experience that I had in China teaching.
00:25:45.920 --> 00:25:50.559
And the whole time I was writing it, the negative chatter in my head wanted to take me down.
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The chatter of you can't write.
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This isn't what you're here for.
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This is your brother's, this isn't yours, you know.
00:25:57.359 --> 00:26:02.720
And I had to just battle that chatter daily until the book was done, and then it was gone.
00:26:02.880 --> 00:26:03.039
Wow.
00:26:03.200 --> 00:26:04.480
It's just I just kept pushing through.
00:26:04.960 --> 00:26:06.480
Now, this one didn't take me down as hard.
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No, that's good.
00:26:07.359 --> 00:26:07.759
It was good.
00:26:07.839 --> 00:26:10.480
I was really glad because I was a little afraid after the first one, you know?
00:26:10.640 --> 00:26:10.960
Yes.
00:26:11.200 --> 00:26:15.440
But but yeah, the first one just I'd go to sleep at night and say to my husband, I just can't write this.
00:26:15.519 --> 00:26:16.319
It's killing me.
00:26:16.400 --> 00:26:19.759
It's like the chatter, my brain is just like taking me down that I can't do this.
00:26:20.000 --> 00:26:23.680
Because you're in comparing for which I feel like kids do that so much, right?
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With their peers, especially their their brothers and sisters, right?
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Especially the one that excels at everything.
00:26:29.680 --> 00:26:31.839
Let's say there's a child that's like gifted to everything.
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And that was how my brother was.
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Yeah.
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So then all the other kids are like, well, I'll never be that comparison.
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So I'm not gonna even try and do what they're good at.
00:26:40.319 --> 00:26:41.680
Like you said, your brother was good as writing.
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You're like, well, I'm not gonna even try that because then I'll be compared.
00:26:44.640 --> 00:26:45.039
Oh, yeah.
00:26:45.200 --> 00:26:45.359
Right?
00:26:45.519 --> 00:26:47.200
Or you're compare yourself.
00:26:47.440 --> 00:26:47.759
Yeah.
00:26:47.920 --> 00:26:51.759
So comparison is probably one of the worst things that you know we do, right?
00:26:52.079 --> 00:26:52.880
It really is poison.
00:26:53.039 --> 00:26:53.440
Yeah.
00:26:53.680 --> 00:27:02.400
And then as, you know, in our group of authors, I think we probably have to battle that too, because we're like, oh gosh, I didn't write, well, this is many words in this book.
00:27:02.640 --> 00:27:05.039
Oh, I didn't write this, and oh, my book didn't, you know.
00:27:05.200 --> 00:27:08.160
So we probably have to go through that own chatter as well.
00:27:08.400 --> 00:27:14.880
It's like, oh, her book's so good and this is great, and you know, and so we have to probably keep doing that as well.
00:27:14.960 --> 00:27:23.279
But I think it's such a fantastic group where we we really help each other rise, you know, and believe in all our messages as well.
00:27:23.440 --> 00:27:32.079
And and tell us a little bit about your book, Stuck, because it's it's I feel like everybody deals with this in their own life.
00:27:32.240 --> 00:27:38.079
I know I have, I know my mother, you know, my kids, and everything you point at.
00:27:38.160 --> 00:27:46.640
So maybe talk a little bit or, you know, if you want to read a little bit off of it, but uh, I it's just explain it a little, summarize it a little bit.
00:27:46.880 --> 00:27:47.839
What the message.
00:27:48.079 --> 00:27:51.200
Well, I'll first say it, it took it had about 30 titles.
00:27:52.559 --> 00:27:54.720
I was like, what am I gonna name this?
00:27:54.799 --> 00:27:58.240
You know, and this is the more I wrote, the more I wrote, and and the conversations.
00:27:58.319 --> 00:28:01.680
As clients come in, the majority of the clients come in, I say, What's going on?
00:28:01.759 --> 00:28:02.319
I'm stuck.
00:28:02.640 --> 00:28:04.079
That's always a conversation they had.
00:28:04.160 --> 00:28:05.200
I'm stuck.
00:28:05.519 --> 00:28:10.640
And my response to them was, Well, you got here, so you're really not stuck.
00:28:10.799 --> 00:28:13.279
You're not in quicksand, you're not in cement.
00:28:13.599 --> 00:28:15.119
You know, you actually are here.
00:28:15.519 --> 00:28:22.640
And so I do tell people when they say they're stuck, I'll say, Well, if you can ring a bell and you can talk, you're not totally stuck.
00:28:23.200 --> 00:28:27.039
You just are unwilling to do what it takes to get unstuck.
00:28:27.759 --> 00:28:32.480
And that's why the subtitle is Unraveling Your Resistance to Healing.
00:28:32.799 --> 00:28:32.960
Okay.
00:28:33.200 --> 00:28:48.799
So it's really about um being willing to let go of your conversation in your brain and the the stories you tell yourself that I'm not gonna get well or I can't get well, and that's why I'm stuck.
00:28:49.440 --> 00:28:57.599
That doctors tell me I'll never get well, or this will never heal, or I am this, whatever the label is that they've been given.
00:28:58.160 --> 00:29:02.880
And so that conversation plays out in the head, then they're not gonna move forward.
00:29:03.039 --> 00:29:07.039
It's definitely a conversation that people have to choose.
00:29:07.119 --> 00:29:08.000
Yeah, they have to choose.
00:29:08.400 --> 00:29:19.440
So you're bringing that awareness that this is why they're feeling stuck, or maybe the the joy is, and also you're really trying to help people because they're hiding also their gifts.
00:29:19.599 --> 00:29:20.160
Yes, right?
00:29:20.319 --> 00:29:26.079
Yes, and we need more of people's gifts to be out in the world, helping shine their gifts.
00:29:26.319 --> 00:29:34.799
Because how many people that I know, I see have so many gifts, it's just like, let's open that doorway so they can see it and go out there, get through those blocks.
00:29:34.960 --> 00:29:36.799
And for one, is my mother.
00:29:36.880 --> 00:29:50.880
Yeah, she has so many gifts, but there's there's definitely she's you know, I feel kind of stuck in stepping forward into those gifts and trusting, trusting that she she can do all this in herself, right?
00:29:51.039 --> 00:29:55.359
So that's why I think your book is so helpful for for everybody, even myself.
00:29:55.440 --> 00:29:59.119
I read it and really resonate with it as I keep moving forward.
00:29:59.200 --> 00:30:01.759
And I'll I'll also be like, oh, I don't know, I don't know.
00:30:01.920 --> 00:30:04.960
But now I've learned to trust it because I'm like, okay, it does work.
00:30:05.119 --> 00:30:12.240
Once I'm I move forward in my gifts and what God is asking me to do, it it ignites me.
00:30:12.319 --> 00:30:14.960
I I crave now that feeling.
00:30:15.200 --> 00:30:16.400
And you're probably healthier, huh?
00:30:16.480 --> 00:30:16.720
Yes.
00:30:16.799 --> 00:30:17.519
Oh my gosh.
00:30:17.599 --> 00:30:17.839
Yes.
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So I yes, that vitality, the energy that I have that was once a time in Alaska, I could, I still ate the same and worked out the same.
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But oh my gosh, the fatigue was just unreal.
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Yeah.
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The fatigue, I could feel sleep eight hours a day and the I it was dragging through the day.
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Yeah.
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That I remember very vividly.
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Acid reflux, all these things that would show up.
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Yeah, now I'm like, I love feeling so good and the vitality and the health.
00:30:47.200 --> 00:30:53.359
And that's I I'm really passionate about health as well, you know, and blending both spirituality and all the health.
00:30:53.440 --> 00:30:58.960
So yeah, it it's it's and I could tell actually I got sick right before the holidays.
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Oh, I was like, oh, because now I know when you get sick, that's a message.
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Yeah, there's something that I'm willing to look at.
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And actually, it was an old pattern coming back.
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And I had to sit in it, sit with God a lot of times.
00:31:11.599 --> 00:31:17.759
When you get sick, he wants you to sit with him and listen in in because we don't have enough stillness in our lives, right?
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To sit with him.
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And uh, and I was like, Oh, okay, I'm listening.
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Okay, I see what I'm doing.
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Yes, and get back into balance, right?
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And so I I'm so proud of you to finally want to shine.
00:31:31.359 --> 00:31:34.079
You had your legacy makers show as well, right?
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And um I'll tell you one more thing.
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One thing I do say in there is people who are not using their gifts, I always say safety, security, and stability.
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That's what people are always seeking.
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But they keep you sick, stuck, and stingy.
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Oh, I like that.
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Because when you are refusing to use your gifts and go out and and share them, you're stingy with them, number one.
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But it's gonna keep you sick and stuck because then oh, I'm too sick to go out and do this.
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I don't feel well.
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So I can't go use my gifts.
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And so I always say when you're looking for safety, security, and stability, then you're gonna stay stick and sick and stuck.
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Yeah, you got you have to let go of that.
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This feels safe, this feels comfortable.
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This is easy for me.
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I'm good, I'm comfortable right now.
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Don't push me, you know.
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Well, don't push you, then you're just gonna keep getting sick and stuck.
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That's an important message.00:32:32.160 --> 00:32:32.640
I love that.00:32:32.720 --> 00:32:33.839
I love the way you say it.00:32:33.920 --> 00:32:39.119
And so if people wanted to work with you, uh how they can find you and and buy your book as well.00:32:39.359 --> 00:32:39.680
Yeah.00:32:39.920 --> 00:32:50.319
So my book's on Amazon and working with me basically, they can book on my website, yourhealingevolution.com, or call me.00:32:50.640 --> 00:32:53.359
Okay, yeah, and I'll put it all in the show notes as well.00:32:53.440 --> 00:32:55.519
Yeah, that people can reach you and work with you.00:32:55.680 --> 00:32:57.200
You are in Gilbert, Arizona.00:32:57.359 --> 00:32:59.839
Do you you host retreats too sometimes, right?00:33:00.160 --> 00:33:00.960
I like retreats.00:33:01.039 --> 00:33:01.759
I teach classes.00:33:01.839 --> 00:33:07.680
I actually teach a course, a two-day course on how to do energy cleansing and how to actually clean your own energy field.00:33:07.920 --> 00:33:09.759
And is that online or is that in person?00:33:09.920 --> 00:33:11.039
It's a two-day in-person.00:33:11.279 --> 00:33:11.440
Okay.00:33:11.599 --> 00:33:14.720
Um, and so a great reason to fly into sunny Arizona.00:33:15.279 --> 00:33:16.319
I've had a lot of those.00:33:16.559 --> 00:33:17.440
Yeah, I'm sure.00:33:17.920 --> 00:33:22.799
I've had a cool opportunity over the years to um speak at esthetician conferences.00:33:23.039 --> 00:33:23.599
Oh, I like that.00:33:23.759 --> 00:33:26.160
And so that was very cool because they're in a lot of energy.00:33:26.480 --> 00:33:26.640
Yeah.00:33:26.880 --> 00:33:28.400
And right, you're close energy, right?00:33:28.559 --> 00:33:29.440
Well, dentistry.00:33:29.519 --> 00:33:30.720
I mean, dentistry too.00:33:30.799 --> 00:33:34.480
Yeah, I I do talk about the energetic and you're right there, the solar plexus.00:33:34.559 --> 00:33:34.880
Yes, yeah.00:33:35.119 --> 00:33:41.119
When you're working on patients, and I do talk about, I try to not make it sound woo-woo, but more science based.00:33:41.200 --> 00:33:54.319
And when I'm explaining the energetic exchange, yes, when you're working with patients, and I think it should be integrated, you should be speaking with yeah, providers, doctors, and explaining that and getting out there that kind of work.00:33:54.480 --> 00:34:03.920
Because think if you can teach that to doctors as well, and they can go and treat the patients and understand the root of it.00:34:04.079 --> 00:34:05.359
How important would that be?00:34:05.599 --> 00:34:11.119
So that's I do have a lot of spot owners who come out and take my energy stuff because they need it for who they're working with.00:34:11.280 --> 00:34:12.000
For who they're working with.00:34:12.159 --> 00:34:15.760
So, but yeah, so so yeah, it's a it's a powerful course to learn how to do.00:34:15.920 --> 00:34:19.199
I clean my own energy field every day, which keeps me healthy.00:34:19.360 --> 00:34:22.719
Yeah, and keeps me more resilient that I'm not taking on everybody's stuff.00:34:22.880 --> 00:34:24.159
Yes, I've noticed that myself.00:34:24.320 --> 00:34:32.239
And you've taught me so many tools as well that I have to do as well on a daily basis because I'll notice it because then I'll be so depleted, you know.00:34:32.480 --> 00:34:34.880
And uh, well, I'm so glad to have you on today.00:34:34.960 --> 00:34:36.239
I wish we you could talk more.00:34:36.400 --> 00:34:37.280
We'll have you on again.00:34:37.760 --> 00:34:38.480
Have you on again?00:34:38.639 --> 00:34:39.039
Thank you.00:34:39.199 --> 00:34:44.719
And uh we'll we'll share the show notes, we'll share your book, all the links and whatnot.00:34:44.800 --> 00:34:47.920
And I can't wait to see uh you shine more in front of the camera.00:34:48.239 --> 00:34:48.719
Thank you.00:34:48.960 --> 00:34:49.840
Thanks for having me.00:34:50.079 --> 00:34:50.800
Yeah, you're welcome.
