Oct. 29, 2025

EP 33: What’s Lurking in Your Smile? The Truth About Dental Toxins

What if your dental work is quietly affecting your whole body? 

Dr. Michelle Jorgensen joins us to discuss mercury, root canals, and safer alternatives for healing, including ozone therapy, ceramic implants, and hydroxyapatite toothpaste. It’s a real talk on what your mouth might be saying about your memory, mood, and overall health.

🎧 Tune in, share it with a friend who’s been told “everything looks fine,” and start asking better questions about your care.

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Melissa Methven works with breathwork, mindfulness, and personal growth.

She also offers speaking engagements and has books to explore her approach. You can learn about it or join a session at www.melissagratitude.life

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Dr. Michelle Jorgensen focuses on simple, non-toxic oral care. Her toothpaste and wellness tools are designed to support healthy habits, and you can use the code "Gratitude" for a discount at Living Well with Dr. Michelle Jorgensen

00:00 - Loss, Dentistry, And A Hard Question

02:02 - Dr. Michelle’s Health Collapse

06:40 - Off-The-Charts Mercury Toxicity

09:10 - How Dental Offices Fill With Mercury Vapor

12:05 - Fertility, Neurology, And Mercury

16:38 - History Of Amalgam And Mad Hatters

20:25 - Why Amalgam Still Gets Placed

23:10 - SMART Protocol And Finding Safe Dentists

27:40 - Patient Demand As The Driver Of Change

30:16 - Root Canals: What Really Happens Inside

34:20 - Silent Infections And Cone Beam CT

38:20 - When Dental Infections Masquerade As Sinus Issues

41:00 - Metal Vs Ceramic Implants And EMFs

45:20 - Tooth Meridians And Organ Links

49:10 - Airway, Sleep, And Heart Health

52:40 - Fluoride’s Tradeoffs And Alternatives

57:40 - Hydroxyapatite And Remineralization

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Well, welcome back to Not Alone with Melissa Sue Metfin.

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Today I have an incredible guest, Dr.

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J Michelle Jorgensen.

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And this is not just another dental podcast.

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This is for me as a dental hygienist for over 16 years, and also my late husband was a dentist.

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We owned a practice for over 16 years, so I've seen the progression from out of school to owning to the stress factors.

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I've sat by his side seeing the load.

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And also when he passed three years ago and died by suicide, I started asking questions.

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Why?

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Why is dentistry at the top highest rate for suicide?

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Why?

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You know, I was on so many podcasts, and a lot of people would ask me that.

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And in my first book, I did write a chapter about dentistry and what I started seeing signs as to maybe the root causes as to why it's the highest rate for burnout.

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Think of other healthcare professions that are really high stress, but they're still not at the top for suicide.

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So I I truly believe today Dr.

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Michelle Jorgensen will shine a light that needs to be heard not only for the patients, but for the dental community.

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And I'm honored to have you on my podcast.

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I'm getting a little emotional because I know I'm getting to the root cause by hearing your story.

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And I am so excited to be here today.

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Yes, thank you.

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Thank you.

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And uh I would love to start with kind of your story because I I know you became really sick as a dentist.

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And I think for me, uh the root cause of mercury poisoning was very much prevalent for my husband in his practice.

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He removed amalgams so much in his beginning of his career.

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He was known as a cosmetic dentist to remove all these amalgams for years and years and years.

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And now hearing your story of uh mercury toxicity, it's like a light bulb went on.

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I was like, oh my gosh.

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And you know what else?

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I got my kids tested for heavy metals, and my son and daughter were high in mercury.

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And so it just got me to dive even deeper.

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So I'm gonna let you just share because I feel like you we there's just so much we need to cover.

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Yep, yep.

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And I'm just really excited to be here.

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I'm so sorry for your loss, first of all.

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And this is one of the reasons that I share, is because it's absolutely devastating if people don't know, first of all, that this can happen, what you can do about it.

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And I am exactly where you are on the I believe this is the root cause for this high rate of suicide.

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You know, I often, it's not a joking matter, but we'll kind of joke and laugh and think certainly there are careers and professions that are more stressful than dentistry.

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I mean, yes, there's stress in dentistry, no doubt.

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I've been a practice owner for, you know, nearly 30 years now.

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But there are a lot of professions that have a lot of stress.

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And uh I've thought there's gotta be a different, there has to be a missing piece here, something else.

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So, yes, my story.

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I'm a general dentist.

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I've been practicing, like I said, for nearly 30 years now, and I started practicing with my father.

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I just thought I would pretty much go through my career like he has.

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He's actually in his mid-70s, he's still practicing dentistry.

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He practices in a maximum security prison.

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So it's really, it's a crazy, crazy thing he's doing now.

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But I just thought that's what I would do, that I would just keep practicing forever, you know, and I love dentistry.

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Sounds like your husband probably did as well.

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He did, he did.

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Yeah, you know, I was a cosmetic dentist also for many, many years, and our practice was growing and things were growing great, but things weren't going great for my body, for myself.

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And I started getting really sick.

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And anytime you get sick, you know, you just start doing the things you already know.

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My father or my grandfather was an internist, you know, my father was a dentist, and so we knew modern medicine.

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That's what I knew.

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That's what I was trained in, that's what I had really grown up trusting.

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And as I started going to every doctor I could potentially find, I wasn't getting a lot of answers.

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In fact, I wasn't getting really any answers.

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Mostly they would just hand me a prescription and kind of hope I would go away, I think, mostly.

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Yes.

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So uh my symptoms started out with gut issues.

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And, you know, in today's day and age, everybody just kind of looks at you like, well, doesn't everybody have gut problems?

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You know, and it seems like everybody you talk to does.

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So I thought, well, I'm nothing, nothing special here.

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So we started changing our diet.

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We, you know, threw away all of our food and it started throwing away everything that everybody says isn't good for you.

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And it helped a little, but it didn't help a lot.

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In fact, it got to the point where I couldn't even drink water without pain sometimes.

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Wow.

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So you know, just that I don't want to interrupt, but this is was my first sign too was the gut hit the gut.

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And I always tell people the only thing I could drink was bone broth.

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I could barely keep that down.

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So that definitely starts there.

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And a lot of people just think, oh, this is something else, right?

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It's bacteria, it's a parasite.

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You know, so we started doing all of the testing for all of that.

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Nothing was coming up.

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The next sign that was really big was my memory.

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And I've always had a really good memory.

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I could remember things, especially anything written.

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I could just have a picture of it in my head, and I could remember patients' names for forever.

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I could remember their faces.

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You know, they would come in and I would remember their entire story and all their kids' names.

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And, you know, that was just kind of the that was just the way my brain worked.

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Well, I stopped being able to remember a patient's name from room to room.

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I couldn't even remember the person I worked on 10 minutes ago.

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So it was very obvious something had changed.

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My team could tell something had changed.

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My my, you know, my husband could tell something had changed.

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So again, doctor after doctor, no results, no answers, no anything.

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But the one that was really life-changing and practice-changing was that I had numbness all the way down my hands, my arms.

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I couldn't sleep at night.

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I couldn't blow dry my hair.

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I couldn't brush my teeth, I couldn't uh, you know, use a pen.

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Hardly, I couldn't write more than a sentence or two.

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My hand was completely numb, just painfully numb.

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And it got to the point where I couldn't hold my dental instruments very well anymore.

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I was uh you're, you know, you're in the dental industry, I couldn't change my burrs, you know, the the hand piece on the handpiece, I couldn't change them anymore.

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I had to hand it to my assistant and she would change them for me and then hand them back.

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And I started thinking, ah, perhaps I shouldn't be doing this job anymore.

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If, you know, I literally can't even hold instruments and I would have to stop and shake my hand out.

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And it was really to the point where I thought I shouldn't do this job anymore, and I can't do this job anymore.

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And I was going to chiropractor like two, three times a week.

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I was having massage twice a week.

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I was doing everything I could think of.

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I was exercising and weightlifting, and I mean, on and on and on and on.

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I tried everything and nothing was making a difference.

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So I said, well, I guess I'm gonna have to sell the practice.

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At the time, like I said, my father and I were practicing together, but we had independent practices.

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So I put the practice up for sale and I thought, well, I've learned a lot about nutrition, you know, and changing our diet.

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So maybe I could do something with nutrition.

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And I actually found a dentist that had a nutritionist in his office.

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So I reached out and got a hold of him, and I talked to him and I said, Do you think I could, you know, just like do nutrition out of a dental practice?

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What do you think about that?

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And he said, Wait a minute, wait a minute.

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You know, tell me your symptoms again.

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They sound so much like mine.

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Have you ever looked into mercury as a potential problem?

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And I said, Well, no, I don't, I don't have any fillings.

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You know, I knew that amalgam fillings or silver fillings had mercury, but I said, I don't have any fillings.

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And, you know, I was taught that they're completely safe once they're in the mouth.

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And he said, Well, regardless of what you've been taught, perhaps it would be worth just getting tested.

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And he was right, I hadn't ever been tested for that.

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So I said, Well, okay, let's let's get tested.

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So I got tested, and that's what it was mercury toxicity off the charts.

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So at this point, I was a little shocked.

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I had no idea that this could even be a problem for a dentist, right?

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Because in school, they they always say, you know, never said it was unsafe, and everyone, you know, it's not even something that's being talked about.

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I know I've gone to many dental conferences, and it never comes up as a topic.

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Never.

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And, you know, in fact, in school, I was told that if I did tell someone that these fillings could affect their health, that I would actually lose my license.

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So it was the last thing I was gonna tell anybody.

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But here I literally almost lost my career because of mercury.

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And it wasn't the fillings I had, like I said, I didn't have any.

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It was the fillings I was drilling out every single day on patients because as a cosmetic dentist, people didn't like the way they looked.

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And when that mercury, now I can say things, now I can say these things.

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When that mercury is drilled on, it actually vaporizes the mercury and mercury vapor is going to rise.

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Anything vaporous is typically going to rise.

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Well, where's the dentist's head?

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Right above the patient.

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But this doesn't just go for the dentist, the hygienist.

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When you're using what's called a cavitron, I mean you you know what this is.

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Obviously, people listening, it's the it's the mechanical or the electrical tool that uh hygienists will use to clean teeth.

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When you hit a mercury filling, uh, you know, a silver amalgam filling, it will release mercury vapors.

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When that vapor is released, it's released into the dental, into the the air of the dental office.

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That's going to affect the dental assistant, it's going to affect the dental receptionist, that's going to affect everybody sitting in that dental office.

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It's going to even affect the people in the waiting room, you know, that are aren't there for that procedure, but are breathing that same air that it's being released into.

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That mercury is now released 24-7 in anybody's mouth.

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It's released every single time you chew, it's released every single time you swallow, every single time you eat something hot and then cold.

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So this is not talked about in dentistry.

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And to me, it's an absolute travesty.

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Like I have had major, obviously the health issues I talked about, but one that's really, really sensitive and near and dear to my heart is fertility issues.

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I have literally never been able to get pregnant my entire, my entire life.

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And uh we did in vitro fertilization, had twins.

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We're so fortunate, had two more failed attempts and adopted two other children because I was I've never been able to get pregnant.

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And there's a huge correlation between mercury and fertility in women.

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How many women work inside of dentistry?

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Yes.

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Like the large majority of the people in den not dentists, dentists, 50%, but everybody else are women, right?

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Hygienist, dental assistance, receptors, they're all women.

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This is all women that we're talking about.

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So not only gut issues, which are directly correlated with mercury, neurologic issues.

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Mercury is a neurotoxin, so it's going to affect your memory.

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It's going to affect, you know, but feeling and sensation like I have.

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Nerve damage.

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My husband talked about nerve damage.

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He had comp he was taking these medicines for nerve damage.

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And sometimes he would do local injection of himself on his back because he was so much pain and inflammation, couldn't get to the root cause.

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There was like a list of medications for all the symptoms.

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But now, now the I have no doubt in my mind that it was all mercury poisoning.

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And now I love the story that you you talk about, the Mad Hatter story.

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Mm-hmm.

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You know?

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Yep.

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Can you share the Mad Hatter story, you know, about Mercury?

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And where this might be illegal, is this illegal in some places to place amalgam?

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It is.

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It's actually been banned in many European countries.

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So in fact, uh many countries have been without it for 20 plus years.

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But yeah, the the origination of these fillings.

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So so people are clear what I'm talking about.

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These are silver fillings.

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So if you look in your mouth, you look in somebody's mouth, and you see kind of a black, grayish-looking thing in a tooth, that is the kind of filling I'm talking about.

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Any kind of metallic filling other than gold.

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There are a few little gold restorations hanging around.

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They were really done a lot, a lot of many years ago.

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But anything metal in your mouth is most likely going to be the kind of filling I'm talking about.

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And it is 50% mercury.

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We talk about mercury in fish.

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We talk about mercury in vaccines.

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Is anyone talking about mercury in dental fillings?

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And it is the number one source for mercury in the environment.

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Is dental fillings being drilled out, washing down our drains, going into the water system?

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So this is absolutely huge.

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And it started in Europe in the 1800s.

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At the time, there was no such thing as a dentist.

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There were barbers and there were doctors that were both doing dentistry.

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So barbers had you in a chair, they would lean you back, cut your hair, do a shave, and fill a tooth or yank a tooth, you know?

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And uh the doctors were doing the same.

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They were the ones that were doing dentistry.

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And the barbers were getting real tired of pulling teeth.

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And I can only imagine, you know, I've pulled teeth on people that are numb, and I have really great instruments and lights and everything, and they're doing it not numb.

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No, no way to really do this.

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I can't even imagine.

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So they figured out that they can mix silver shavings with elemental mercury, the liquid kind that's in a thermometer.

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They could mix it together and it would form kind of this putty material that they could shove in a tooth and a hole in a tooth and it would harden and it wouldn't lead to, you know, the tooth wouldn't further decay or it would at least slow it down.

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It would, it would take care of a lot of the problem.

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So they were ecstatic.

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Like this was a phenomenal invention, right?

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Be able to slow down tooth decay to be able to save a tooth, perhaps.

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But the doctor said, we actually think this is a really bad idea, because right around the same time, the common use for mercury was in hat making.

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People would rub mercury on fur and it would turn it into felt.

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And this is when all the men were wearing these felt hats.

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So they were using mercury to make felt hats.

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Well, what was happening is these young men who were doing this procedure with this mercury on the fur, they were getting what they would call Danbury shakes.

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They were shaking so bad they couldn't feed themselves anymore.

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And these were young, 20-something young men.

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They couldn't walk.

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They looked like they were drunk when they were walking.

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Their speech was slurred.

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So they started calling them mad hatters because they literally looked and acted like they were mad.

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And the doctors realized it was from the mercury.

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So they said, we think it's a really bad idea to put mercury in people's mouths because we see that it's actually like killing these people that are working with it uh in their jobs.

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And the barbers said, It's working great for us, we're gonna keep going.

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And they did.

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And that's what the United States, when when dentistry came to the United States, these mercury, silver mercury fillings were just part of standard of care, and they have been ever since.

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They have been, especially pediatric, you know, but because they're like, especially pediatric, because they're like, well, it's less expensive, and they're gonna lose that tooth anyways.

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Yep, yep.

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And it's commonly done.

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Now the FDA, I believe it's the FDA, has said that they are not recommended in children under the age of six or pregnant women.

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This has been a huge advance, actually, in our country.

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But anytime I hear that, I always think, well, if not them, then why anyone?

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Anyone.

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I don't really think it would be great, a great idea in anybody.

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But yes, they are still placed.

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So people will you often, that's usually the next comment to me.

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They'll say, Oh, well, aren't you glad that they're not placed anymore?

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I'm like, what are you talking about?

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They're placed every day, all day long, and dental offices throughout the country.

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Oh, yeah.

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This is standard of care, particularly in lower demographic areas, places where insurance, dental insurance is really the only way people are able to pay for care or Medicaid, particularly.

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Usually dental, uh, these silver fillings are the fillings of choice that Medicaid will pay for, which is really to me a tragedy.

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So these are still being placed every day, but not only being placed, they're being removed every day because these fillings actually clack crack your teeth.

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They create all kinds of, you've seen it, you know, they create all kinds of cracks in the tooth.

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There's new decay underneath them, they lead to all sorts of tooth problems.

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So dentists, whether they understand this component about health or not, they're removing mercury fillings all day long every day because they're just ruining teeth and breaking teeth.

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And, you know, they just with wear and tear, they wear out, they have to be replaced.

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And not only that, with the metal, you know, it's like a, you know, you can explain what it does as well with the 5G and everything, is just energetically, it's just like an antenna for all of that, which causes inflammation in the body and you know, so many root cause illnesses.

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But, you know, I feel there's just so much to cover, but with what's your out, what I'm trying to do is empower everybody, start a movement, because if there's more patients asking about, okay, I don't want this metal anymore in my mouth, you know, and do the SMART protocol, because there's also a protocol to how to remove them to protect the patient and protect the dentist as well.

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So it's like it's supply and demand, right?

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How we can shift the career instead of starting with maybe, oh, the ADA and all this, you know, let's start with the patient really asking.

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Let's start that movement.

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So this is why I'm trying to be an advocate as well.

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And and I know, you know, I pray a prayer of protection every day because there's people that are not gonna like me doing that, you know.

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But I I'd love for you to dive into as well.

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I told my friends, families are really curious about why no metal compared to, you know, even implants.

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Why not why doing ceramic implants instead of and then dive into root canals, cavitations, you know, these are all very new terms to people as to why these are might not be a good idea for them.

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Yep.

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So to finish on the mercury filling piece, the most important thing that you as a consumer, you know, somebody with teeth needs to know is number one, they are being placed, but you can choose to not have them.

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So you can choose what's called a composite resin or a ceramic dental restoration instead.

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And both highly recommended.

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They are great.

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There is no metal involved in them at all.

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But if you have currently have old mercury fillings in your mouth, the only way to have them removed is with certain protocols.

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So that's the that's kind of the end of the story, or not even the end of the story.

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The middle of my story is, you know, to be able to get better, the doctor said, Well, you can't keep putting this mercury in if you're gonna actually get it out.

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You know, we can figure out and help you detox this and get it out of your body, but you can't keep breathing it in if you're gonna get it out at the same time.

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So they said, were there are there ways you can do these procedures and not breathe it in?

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And I said, I don't know, but I'm gonna go find out.

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So I started searching and I found an organization called the IAOMT, had never heard of them before.

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They had an entire protocol.

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Who knew?

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You know, other dentists don't know.

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I can guarantee you that.

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So they have an entire protocol that is called SMART.

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And what that is, is a safe mercury amalgam removal technique.

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That's what it stands for, but it's a safe procedure.

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So what needs to happen is if you're win and if you're gonna get these removed, I recommend you get them removed, but only do it if you do it safely.

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So you're going to find someone who is able to do it this way.

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You're going to notice a difference when you walk in that room.

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You're gonna have coverings on, you know, you on, you're gonna have a rubber dam on your mouth, you're gonna have a mask on your nose, you're gonna have a giant vacuum at your chin that's gonna suck the vapors away.

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The dentist will wear a special mercury mask, as will the dental assistant.

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All of these things need to be in place if you're going to have it removed.

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So, if ever this is the most common question, well, where do I find one of those dentists?

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Two places.

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I have a directory on my website.

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So my direct my website is livingwellwithdrmichelle.com.

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It's a free directory.

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Go on there, find a dentist near you, or you can go on the website of the IAOMT.

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So IAOMT.org.

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And that website will also have all of the people who have been trained in the SMART protocol.

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So that is what you need to know is do not get them removed unless you're going to do it safely.

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And when you do it, please make sure that you're working with a functional medicine practitioner, somebody that can help get that mercury out of your system.

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Because I am exactly like you, and I've gotten emotional on podcasts before talking about this.

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Saying, if I can save one dentist from what I went through, and if I can save one dentist from what you've gone through and your husband went through, I have had three friends that have committed suicide this year alone in dentistry.

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And it's not okay.

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I know I get a text.

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I honestly get a text because of a big dental community in my life on a monthly basis.

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Yeah, it's not okay.

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No, it's not okay.

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And really, people ask, well, why are we still placing them?

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Like, why are we not talking about it?

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And I have a belief, this is an opinion, this isn't this isn't a scientific fact, but the way that our world works in the United States, it's very litigious.

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So if ADA, FDA were to come out and say, oh, dental mercury fillings are dangerous, they're toxic, every dentist that has placed or removed one would be under a class action lawsuit because of the way that the legal system works in our country.

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So I don't believe that those regulatory agencies can do it.

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I don't think that they can do that.

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So they can't say these things, but I can.

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Yes, yeah, and I can too.

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And I will.

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Yes.

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We can talk about it.

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Yes.

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So that's just kind of the tip of the iceberg.

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And the reason that was so interesting.

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So I started doing these extra procedures for my own health.

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So patients would come in and they would look around and they would, you know, go, okay, what's going on?

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Something's a little different than last time I was here.

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Yeah, I looked at your video.

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You have a very good YouTube channel that people can look what these procedures look like, and you're very good at at communicating what it is.

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And I saw it.

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I was like, oh yeah, this is intense, you know?

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This is intense.

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It looks very different.

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So patients started asking me, okay, what's going on?

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And so I would explain, well, this is something I'm now doing for my own health.

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This is what happened.

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This is what I found out.

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And usually they would all go, Well, isn't this probably better for me too?

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Yes, it is.

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And then they would start asking me further probing questions.

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Well, I've heard about that, that maybe mercury's not so great.

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But I've also heard like fluoride.

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Like, what do you know about fluoride?

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And, you know, they would start referring me to doctors, and the doctors would say, we've been hearing in our conferences that maybe there's some issues with root canals that you dentists aren't talking about.

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Like, what's really going on with root canals?

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And I couldn't answer the questions.

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I couldn't answer any of these questions.

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And that's a very uncomfortable place for me.

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I am always a question asker.

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I want to find answers.

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And so I had to keep looking.

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I had to keep searching and find out what is really, is there something else more about root canals that I don't know?

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Something else more about fluoride that I don't know.

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And I couldn't believe what I found in the searching.

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And it's not I was doing some crazy obscure, you know, research.

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It was actually, you know, just straight down the line PubMed articles talking about some of these things.

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So as that started happening, I thought all of my patients would leave.

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I thought that they would just think I was super crazy, you know, like, okay, this lady's gone off the deep head.

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But just the opposite actually started happening.

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I started getting a lot more patients that were specifically looking for this kind of dentistry.

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And it's exactly what you said at the beginning that honestly, change through the profession, it's gonna take decades.

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Like right now, what they're teaching in dental school was really standard of care and practice about 10 years ago.

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And they're teaching that in dental school.

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So that means those practitioners are like 20 years behind.

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Yeah, and who's funding these dental schools too, you know?

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Exactly right.

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So any change that's going to occur isn't gonna happen for decades unless you that are listening ask your provider and say, I won't do it unless I do it this way.

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And what do you know about this?

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What do you really know?

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And start finding practitioners that have already asked these questions and have already found answers.

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So thank you for spreading the word and helping to share this information because this is how things are gonna change.

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Not through the profession, it's too slow.

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It's just simply too slow.

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It'll have to change because of supply and demand.

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So, yeah, some of those other things.

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So, root canals is another one that people really want to know about.

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And the thing that I love about really being able to share as a practitioner is I've done hundreds of root canals myself.

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Okay.

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So this has been.

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And my husband was known, he was not an endo, but he loved doing them.

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He loved root.

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I didn't love doing them, but well, he was really talented at it, but but what I did notice that it was strange.

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Now I connect the dots.

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You know, once you'll get into root canals, there I remember emergency calls on the weekend often going, oh, that infection just won't go away.

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It just always there.

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And he'd get being a perfectionist, he'd be like, Well, I know I got all those little, you know, he's like, I know I got in there and all the little canals.

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And now it all makes sense to me as to why.

00:24:55.200 --> 00:25:03.200
And that's just the great jumping off point because that's exactly what we do when we're doing a root canal is let's first of all, why would you need a root canal?

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You know, need.

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I don't even say need anymore because nobody needs a root canal.

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We'll get into that.

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But um basically, if you've been told you need a root canal, why?

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Well, there's inside of the tooth, there's the enamel on the outside, which is highly mineralized.

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Lots of minerals.

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That's the part you see when you smile.

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The next layer in is called dentin, and it has a lot of tubes, little tubes that take nutrients in and out.

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I like to think of it like the transportation system in the tooth.

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You know, it's bringing minerals in, bringing them out everywhere.

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And then in the very center is the nerve, and that's where the nerve, the blood vessels, everything live.

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Well, if you have a cavity that's progressed through the enamel into the dentin, and it's getting close to the nerve, that's when it starts to hurt.

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That's when you get sensitive.

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It's like, oh, yeah, because it's getting by that nerve, and the nerve's telling you.

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Well, if that tooth is already dying or dead, then that nerve inside of that tooth is also dead.

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That's the part that's actually dead.

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It will lead to a swollen face, you know, the kinds of things you've seen in the dental world, you know, these big, big abscesses.

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Well, so then somebody says, you need a root canal.

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So you go, and what do they do?

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They actually remove the nerve, that dead tissue on the inside of the tooth.

00:26:14.319 --> 00:26:21.359
So when you're talking about canals that your husband was talking about, inside of each tooth, there is one to five canals.

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It depends on the tooth.

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Front teeth typically one, back teeth typically three to four to five, you know.

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And so we're looking for the main canal.

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It's the main kind of nerve channel inside of the tooth.

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I'm sure he was an excellent clinician.

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You know, I'm sure he got all of that cleaned out, but that's not all that's inside of the tooth.

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Remember that dentin inside the dentin, all those little tubes?

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Well, there's a little extension of nerves that go out in all of those tubes and blood vessels.

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You know, this is a hygienic is why you get sensitive teeth, you know, because if if a little enamel is exposed up here at the gum line, it's like, mmm, man, that's so sensitive.

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Why?

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Because those little tubes carry whatever that cold water or something was all the way to the nerve, and you go, oh, man, that was cold.

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So those tubes have nerve tissue in them.

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They're too small to clean, too small to fill.

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So what happens is even in the most beautifully, perfectly done root canal, there's still dead tissue inside of the tooth.

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And anywhere there's dead tissue in the body, it's going to attract bacteria, no matter what.

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This is just what happens.

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I always joke and I say, you know, what if you had your gallbladder attack?

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And the doctor said, We got to take your gallbladder out.

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So they took it out, they cleaned out the inside of it, they stuffed it full of some rubber stuff, which is what we do in root canals, stuff it full of some rubber stuff, and they stuck it back in your body.

00:27:41.200 --> 00:27:42.720
Why do they not do that?

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Isn't dentistry the only health professional that leaves something dead in your body, right?

00:27:48.799 --> 00:27:51.839
It is the only thing that's left dead behind.

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Exactly.

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And honestly, the idea of a root canal is awesome.

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I often say, like, it's awesome, right?

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You gotta keep smiling with it, you get to keep chewing with it, but there's dead tissue there attracting bugs.

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So if it's attracting bacteria, your immune system has to come and fight it.

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24-7.

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It has this immune, just immune insult.

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So your immune system often gets distracted.

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It can't take care of other things going on, like chronic diseases elsewhere.

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They start to flourish, they start to really get worse because your body's distracted, taking care of this.

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Eventually, maybe something else goes on in your life.

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You have something, you know, you get sick elsewhere, something else happens, and your body can't take care of the tooth anymore.

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So it starts to grow and starts to expand.

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And literally every single time you chew, you're forcing that growing infection throughout your entire body, throughout the bloodstream.

00:28:45.680 --> 00:28:55.599
And there are hundreds of diseases that have now been proven to be directly correlated or caused by dental infections, like root canals.

00:28:55.920 --> 00:29:07.200
Don't you say, oh, yeah, I know I've listened to a couple of your podcasts, and you mentioned out of all your patient base, that women that had breast cancer, you said most of them root had an infection in their mouth.

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Is it is that clear?

00:29:08.400 --> 00:29:14.559
I have yet to find someone that had or has cancer that hasn't had an infection in their mouth somewhere that I can't find an infection in their mouth.

00:29:14.640 --> 00:29:19.119
Either a failed root canal, and here's the key the nerve's gone, remember?

00:29:20.400 --> 00:29:21.200
Let me do that again.

00:29:21.279 --> 00:29:21.920
Something funky there.

00:29:22.160 --> 00:29:25.680
Yeah, I know there was a really loud card that's exactly.

00:29:25.920 --> 00:29:26.799
We'll say it again.

00:29:27.039 --> 00:29:29.359
So here's the key the nerve's gone.

00:29:29.599 --> 00:29:31.440
So now the warning system's gone.

00:29:31.759 --> 00:29:34.240
First, the first time you had the toothache, it hurt, right?

00:29:34.319 --> 00:29:35.920
You're oh man, something's wrong here.

00:29:36.079 --> 00:29:38.400
But when you have a failed root canal, it doesn't hurt.

00:29:38.799 --> 00:29:39.759
Nerve's gone.

00:29:39.920 --> 00:29:45.359
There's no system that tells you something's going on other than systemic problems.

00:29:45.599 --> 00:29:48.880
I will always remember the really the lady that changed my mind on this.

00:29:49.039 --> 00:29:50.880
She came in and she had this root canal.

00:29:50.960 --> 00:29:54.319
I always remember it was like right up here and up her left side.

00:29:54.400 --> 00:29:57.680
And she pointed to it, she said, I don't know, just it just feels weird.

00:29:57.759 --> 00:29:59.920
And I'm sure you had people saying that as a hygienist.

00:30:00.240 --> 00:30:00.319
Right?

00:30:00.480 --> 00:30:01.359
Oh, yes, all the time.

00:30:01.599 --> 00:30:04.559
Even yesterday, my uh friend, she's like, I don't know, there's one, two.

00:30:04.880 --> 00:30:07.279
I really need to, you know, look at there's something off.

00:30:07.359 --> 00:30:10.319
I'm like, yeah, go see the you know, biological dentist.

00:30:10.720 --> 00:30:11.359
Exactly right.

00:30:11.440 --> 00:30:13.599
And they they usually and they don't like say they hurt, right?

00:30:13.680 --> 00:30:18.960
They just go, it's just, I don't know, it's just like feels weird, feels off, feels something, hasn't felt right since I had it done.

00:30:19.119 --> 00:30:21.119
You know, these are all the words that people say.

00:30:21.279 --> 00:30:25.039
And so I took a regular dental x-ray, the kind you're very proficient at taking.

00:30:25.119 --> 00:30:30.000
You know, they go in the mouth, you take the x-ray, and we looked at it, it looks fine.

00:30:30.160 --> 00:30:31.839
Like everything looks completely fine.

00:30:32.000 --> 00:30:35.200
Every dentist that looked at it would probably say the exact same thing.

00:30:35.359 --> 00:30:37.200
But I had just gotten a new machine.

00:30:37.359 --> 00:30:40.559
It's called a cone beam CT scanner.

00:30:40.640 --> 00:30:45.119
And I want everybody to remember this one cone beam CT scanner.

00:30:45.279 --> 00:30:47.920
I had just gotten my first machine, and I said, you know what?

00:30:48.079 --> 00:30:49.279
I just got this new machine.

00:30:49.359 --> 00:30:50.240
Let's just go check it out.

00:30:50.319 --> 00:30:51.839
Let's go see if there's anything going on.

00:30:52.079 --> 00:30:54.319
Took a scan and my jaw dropped.

00:30:54.480 --> 00:31:03.759
There was literally a quarter-size hole in her jawbone that had been eaten away by the infection at the end of the root canal, and I couldn't see it.

00:31:04.240 --> 00:31:07.680
I could not see it on a dental x-ray, on a regular dental x-ray.

00:31:07.839 --> 00:31:10.319
So dentists aren't ignoring these things.

00:31:10.480 --> 00:31:12.559
They're not just brushing them under the rug.

00:31:12.720 --> 00:31:13.920
They're not doing that.

00:31:14.160 --> 00:31:20.000
They literally cannot see them with traditional dental x-rays that are taken every six months when you go to the dentist.

00:31:20.079 --> 00:31:23.359
Because people will tell me all the time, they'll say, Well, I was just at the dentist like three months ago.

00:31:23.440 --> 00:31:24.720
Why did they not find this?

00:31:24.960 --> 00:31:26.160
You can't see it.

00:31:26.480 --> 00:31:29.200
We couldn't see it, but we can now.

00:31:29.359 --> 00:31:35.599
On these 3D cone beam CT scans, I can see everything about these teeth.

00:31:35.759 --> 00:31:37.440
I can tell if they're healthy or not still.

00:31:37.519 --> 00:31:38.799
I can tell if they're reinfected.

00:31:38.960 --> 00:31:42.400
I can tell if they've started to eat away the jawbone or the base of the sinus.

00:31:42.480 --> 00:31:48.240
I mean, I have people that come that have chronic sinus infections, have had, you know, two and three sinus surgeries.

00:31:48.400 --> 00:31:51.200
The ENT cannot figure out why the infection keeps coming back.

00:31:51.359 --> 00:31:56.880
We do a cone beam CT scan and I say, oh, perhaps it's because you have an upper molar with a root canal that's infected.

00:31:56.960 --> 00:32:02.400
It's eaten away the floor of the sinus and is literally filling the sinus up every single time they clear it out.

00:32:02.559 --> 00:32:08.160
So they clear it out, it's back within a month because the tooth is draining somewhere and it's draining into the sinus.

00:32:08.319 --> 00:32:11.359
We find these literally every single day.

00:32:11.759 --> 00:32:15.200
So I don't recommend root canals anymore because you can't clean them.

00:32:15.359 --> 00:32:24.480
There's there's rare instances where it's a, you know, a 13-year-old kid and they knocked their tooth on a bike and we need to hold that tooth for now.

00:32:24.640 --> 00:32:27.759
You know, there's a rare, there's rare times where we need to hold that tooth.

00:32:27.920 --> 00:32:37.039
But usually, just as a rule, we recommend removing the tooth and replacing it with a dental implant if the tooth is dead or dying.

00:32:37.200 --> 00:32:38.960
But honestly, we save a lot of teeth.

00:32:39.119 --> 00:32:41.839
A lot of people will come to us for second opinions for root canals.

00:32:42.079 --> 00:32:45.279
We save a lot of them if they're still alive, but they're just hurting.

00:32:45.440 --> 00:32:48.160
We use ozone, which kills bacteria.

00:32:48.480 --> 00:32:49.359
I love ozone.

00:32:49.440 --> 00:32:50.480
I love using ozone.

00:32:51.039 --> 00:32:52.319
Oh, it's so amazing.

00:32:52.480 --> 00:32:53.920
We're able to do so much with it.

00:32:54.000 --> 00:32:58.799
So if somebody's told you you need a root canal, don't just take it as gospel doctrine.00:32:58.880 --> 00:32:59.519


You know what I mean?00:32:59.759 --> 00:33:03.440


It may be that there are ways to save this if the tooth is still alive.00:33:03.599 --> 00:33:07.519


And if you've already had a root canal, go get a combium CT scan.00:33:07.680 --> 00:33:09.440


See if it's healthy or not.00:33:09.680 --> 00:33:13.279


And if it's not, I recommend a ceramic dental implant.00:33:13.440 --> 00:33:18.799


Now you talked about metal versus ceramic, you know, kind of what are your thoughts or what have you noticed about this?00:33:18.880 --> 00:33:20.640


What are people, which way are people leaning?00:33:20.880 --> 00:33:24.240


Oh, yeah, I think definitely people are leading understanding metal.00:33:24.319 --> 00:33:25.839


You don't want any metal in your mouth.00:33:26.000 --> 00:33:28.559


You know, there's a lot of talk about the EMFs and whatnot.00:33:28.640 --> 00:33:31.279


So I think if there's knowledge out there that it makes sense.00:33:31.440 --> 00:33:34.880


So I was like, yeah, you don't want any metal in in your mouth, you know?00:33:35.119 --> 00:33:38.319


And so uh I think they're definitely open to that.00:33:38.400 --> 00:33:40.240


It's just like, okay, who do I see now?00:33:40.400 --> 00:33:41.359


What do I put in in place?00:33:41.680 --> 00:33:45.519


Especially when they, if they want to remove their root canal, they're like, well, I still want a tooth there.00:33:45.680 --> 00:33:48.799


I said, well, yeah, but you don't want the metal, you know, implant.00:33:48.880 --> 00:33:49.920


You want a ceramic.00:33:50.000 --> 00:33:52.960


And it's very hard right now to find dent.00:33:53.359 --> 00:34:00.400


I mean, there are some out there, but you have to look, like you said, either go on your site, go different sites to look for a biological dentist.00:34:00.559 --> 00:34:08.480


There are, uh, I know so many people now that are flying, either they're probably flying to you, you know, flying to uh I met a doctor that he's out in uh Dr.00:34:08.639 --> 00:34:14.480


Dahm in Germany, you know, and yeah, and so uh people are just kind of flying to find that.00:34:14.719 --> 00:34:19.199


And so I think there's definitely starting to be more of a demand.00:34:19.599 --> 00:34:20.719


Yeah, which is great.00:34:20.880 --> 00:34:27.679


And really the EMF thing, I really like to simplify things down to the point where people can just they it's like, oh, well, that makes sense.00:34:27.920 --> 00:34:34.559


So anything metal, anything metallic is going to in the presence of frequency.00:34:34.719 --> 00:34:36.239


So we talk about EMFs.00:34:36.320 --> 00:34:38.880


This means cell phone, Wi-Fi, whatever it might be.00:34:38.960 --> 00:34:40.159


It's a frequency, right?00:34:40.320 --> 00:34:44.000


How does my email get from your computer to my phone?00:34:44.159 --> 00:34:45.039


How does it get there?00:34:45.199 --> 00:34:49.119


You know, like, no, but we don't really think about these things, but isn't it miraculous, honestly?00:34:49.360 --> 00:34:49.599


It is.00:34:49.760 --> 00:34:51.440


I mean, it's so freaking cool.00:34:51.519 --> 00:34:52.559


It's just amazing.00:34:52.800 --> 00:34:56.960


But it's literally a frequency, it's an energy frequency that passes through the air.00:34:57.039 --> 00:35:00.000


It's the same way that radio, you know, comes across the way.00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:01.280


How do we get a radio?00:35:01.360 --> 00:35:02.880


How do we catch it on an antenna?00:35:03.039 --> 00:35:08.880


Well, it's a frequency of energy that's coming, literally, just electrons that are flowing in a certain wave pattern.00:35:09.039 --> 00:35:14.880


Well, each time we up at, you know, 3G, 4G, 5G, it increases and changes these waves.00:35:15.119 --> 00:35:19.920


Every time a wave passes through metal, it vibrates the metal particles.00:35:20.000 --> 00:35:22.639


So this is why you don't put a metal pan and a microwave.00:35:22.800 --> 00:35:29.440


A microwave is a wave of energy, and that wave of energy passes through the food, it vibrates the particles of food and it heats them up.00:35:29.599 --> 00:35:32.480


But when it vibrates metal particles, it also heats them up.00:35:32.559 --> 00:35:34.719


And now you're gonna have a fire inside of your microwave, right?00:35:34.800 --> 00:35:36.079


We don't want this to happen.00:35:36.320 --> 00:35:40.800


The same thing happens with 4G, 5G cell frequencies, all of these things.00:35:40.960 --> 00:35:43.280


Wi-Fi is just a frequency.00:35:43.360 --> 00:35:49.519


And when it passes through metal, including metal dental implants, it heats them up.00:35:49.760 --> 00:35:52.639


So this was actually discovered in the orthopedic world.00:35:52.800 --> 00:35:58.079


There are way more metal knees and hips and shoulders than there are metal teeth, even.00:35:58.320 --> 00:36:07.840


But uh it they were finding that these frequencies heat the metal up about four to five degrees enough that it kind of cooks the bone around it.00:36:07.920 --> 00:36:10.000


And then the implant is being lost.00:36:10.239 --> 00:36:15.760


So a lot of implant failures a decade down the row, they were working great, doing awesome, no problem.00:36:15.840 --> 00:36:18.639


And all of a sudden, wait a minute, why is this getting loose?00:36:18.719 --> 00:36:19.840


Why is the bone going away?00:36:20.000 --> 00:36:23.679


It's literally getting cooked because of the frequencies we're surrounded by.00:36:23.920 --> 00:36:27.679


So it's not even there, there are some metal toxicity issues and things.00:36:27.840 --> 00:36:29.920


Honestly, I don't even have to go there with most people.00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:31.599


I just say it's just gonna get warm.00:36:31.760 --> 00:36:36.880


It's gonna get warm in your head and it's gonna melt the bone and it's gonna not last long term.00:36:37.039 --> 00:36:41.360


So let's use a ceramic version that will not heat up, it's non-conductive.00:36:41.440 --> 00:36:47.679


So it's called zirconia, doesn't conduct electricity, won't heat up in frequencies, is not gonna melt the bone.00:36:47.760 --> 00:36:49.199


So that's why we like to do ceramic.00:36:49.280 --> 00:36:50.239


There's a lot of other reasons too.00:36:50.320 --> 00:36:52.639


They look much better, the gums like them better.00:36:52.880 --> 00:36:56.480


But for me, even just cell phones is a good enough reason.00:36:56.719 --> 00:36:58.480


Yeah, that's I love that yeah.00:36:58.639 --> 00:37:13.039


Now that we're talking about kind of energy and whatnot, because I also feel uh, you know, each I'm trying to explain to people that each tooth, you know, part of the meridian of our body, and each tooth are connected to organs in our body.00:37:13.119 --> 00:37:36.079


So if there's an infection there, it's kind of obscuring kind of that energy going to other organs and how, you know, so I'm not sure, you know, maybe your better way to explain it, but how from how do you explain it to your patient that, okay, depending on which two, because some of them uh are connected to your gut, some your heart, and and a lot of people haven't heard that.00:37:36.320 --> 00:37:36.719


Yep.00:37:36.880 --> 00:37:40.000


So anytime you start talking about energy, people start going a little cross on us.00:37:40.079 --> 00:37:40.239


Yes.00:37:40.480 --> 00:37:41.039


Yes.00:37:41.519 --> 00:37:44.800


Start saying, Oh, oh, I thought she was crazy.00:37:44.880 --> 00:37:46.800


Now she's proven that she's crazy.00:37:46.960 --> 00:37:47.760


All righty.00:37:48.159 --> 00:37:52.480


So I like to back it down to just simple things that everybody understands.00:37:52.639 --> 00:37:59.440


So if you go to the doctor right now and they hook you up to a heart rate monitor, you're gonna hear the beep, beep, beep.00:37:59.519 --> 00:38:00.719


Hopefully you hear that right.00:38:00.960 --> 00:38:02.960


If you're dead, you're gonna hear beep.00:38:03.760 --> 00:38:06.000


So, what is that monitor recording?00:38:06.159 --> 00:38:14.559


Or make it even simpler, if anybody's wearing an Apple Watch right now, or a Fitbit or an R ring, what is it measuring?00:38:15.679 --> 00:38:18.559


It's measuring the electrical activity in your body.00:38:18.800 --> 00:38:21.760


Okay, that heart rate monitor, beep, beep, beep.00:38:21.840 --> 00:38:26.400


This is the electrical impulse of your heart pumping, literally of that heart beating.00:38:26.559 --> 00:38:27.840


How about an EEG?00:38:28.239 --> 00:38:33.440


So if they want to see if your brain dead after you've had a car accident, they hook you up to an EEG, what are they measuring?00:38:33.679 --> 00:38:35.840


The electrical activity of your brain, okay?00:38:36.000 --> 00:38:38.320


That's what the that's what the monitor is showing.00:38:38.559 --> 00:38:46.880


When those two things stop, if your heart rate monitor flatlines, if your brain monitor flatlines, it means you're dead, right?00:38:47.039 --> 00:38:55.679


Either brain dead or body dead means you're no longer alive because electricity is what enlivens the body, it brings us alive.00:38:55.840 --> 00:38:58.000


It helps it it's what makes us alive.00:38:58.159 --> 00:39:02.480


So every single cell has electricity in it, not just your heart cells and your brain cells.00:39:02.639 --> 00:39:03.519


Every single one does.00:39:03.760 --> 00:39:04.880


They communicate with each other.00:39:05.039 --> 00:39:08.719


That's how our nerves, how I can tap on my fingers right now and I can feel it.00:39:08.800 --> 00:39:09.039


Why?00:39:09.119 --> 00:39:11.280


Because my brain already talked, told me what this means.00:39:11.360 --> 00:39:15.519


You know, those nerve cells conduct electricity just at the speed of light.00:39:15.760 --> 00:39:22.239


So every single, there's four places in the body that has a basically every single organ represented.00:39:22.320 --> 00:39:25.119


And I like to think of it as the way that we charge the body.00:39:25.280 --> 00:39:27.760


So if the phone's dead, we plug it in.00:39:28.000 --> 00:39:29.360


How do you recharge your cells?00:39:29.440 --> 00:39:30.800


Because they're electrical too.00:39:31.039 --> 00:39:33.199


We recharge them through movement.00:39:33.360 --> 00:39:38.480


That's why we like muscle movement, but we also charge them through four different kinds of charging pads.00:39:38.639 --> 00:39:39.679


One is your feet.00:39:39.840 --> 00:39:46.480


So if you've heard of foot zoning, every single organ system has basically kind of a charging port on the bottom of the feet.00:39:46.719 --> 00:39:47.840


Hands, the same thing.00:39:47.920 --> 00:39:54.320


There's every single organ system on the hands, the ears is the third, and the teeth is the fourth.00:39:54.480 --> 00:39:58.079


Every single tooth has a connection with an organ system.00:39:58.400 --> 00:40:03.199


If you think about it, which parts of the body get the most use?00:40:04.239 --> 00:40:10.559


Feet, hands, teeth, chewing, swallowing, ears, I haven't quite figured out yet.00:40:10.800 --> 00:40:13.280


I'm sure maybe it's the wind blowing through our hair.00:40:13.360 --> 00:40:22.960


I don't know what it is, but that's how we recharge our cells, is by this, you know, contact and things that literally gives electrons and electricity to our cells.00:40:23.119 --> 00:40:31.920


So if you have a tooth problem, an infection on that line, it will actually create a short, it will short circuit the entire line.00:40:32.159 --> 00:40:35.599


One of the craziest stories, I just love to tell a story because it's crazy.00:40:35.760 --> 00:40:38.079


This patient walked in, he was literally orange.00:40:38.239 --> 00:40:43.039


It was a new patient visit, and I thought I can't ask him why he's orange right out of the gate.00:40:43.119 --> 00:40:44.480


You know, that's kind of rude.00:40:44.719 --> 00:40:51.119


But, you know, so 15 minutes in, I said, Hey, uh, you know, have anybody ever told you you're orange?00:40:51.199 --> 00:40:54.719


And he said, Everybody asks me if I use self-tanning cream, and I don't.00:40:54.880 --> 00:40:56.000


I don't know what it is.00:40:56.239 --> 00:41:01.840


Well, we took the cone beam CT scan, found he had four root canals across these front teeth.00:41:01.920 --> 00:41:06.800


He'd hit his mouth on a trampoline when he was about 12 years old, and it ended up with root canals.00:41:07.039 --> 00:41:10.159


These teeth are connected to the liver and the gallbladder.00:41:10.239 --> 00:41:10.559


Oh wow.00:41:10.800 --> 00:41:17.360


He literally was jaundiced because of a short circuit in this in these teeth.00:41:17.440 --> 00:41:18.480


It's it's so crazy.00:41:18.559 --> 00:41:20.800


I see it all the time, every day.00:41:20.960 --> 00:41:25.599


People will say, I have this issue, and I will we look at the tooth, so it's called the tooth meridian chart.00:41:25.679 --> 00:41:26.159


Go look it up.00:41:26.239 --> 00:41:28.480


You can find it on Google, tooth meridian chart.00:41:28.639 --> 00:41:32.079


Look it up, you're gonna see, oh my gosh, that's the tooth I have a root canal in.00:41:32.159 --> 00:41:33.599


And that says it's large intestine.00:41:33.760 --> 00:41:35.440


I have such gut issues.00:41:35.760 --> 00:41:36.719


Could it be my tooth?00:41:36.880 --> 00:41:37.039


Yes.00:41:37.199 --> 00:41:41.679


And then this year, it, you know, synchronicities, because I'm starting to talk about this.00:41:41.760 --> 00:41:52.320


I've had people, I don't know, with uh heart failure and heart attacks, and then they're like, oh, he was really healthy, and all of a sudden he, and I'm like, did he have a dental procedure like recently?00:41:52.559 --> 00:41:53.920


Like, oh my gosh, yes, he did.00:41:54.079 --> 00:41:58.159


And I can't help but connect the dots as trying to ask, okay, well, which tooth?00:41:58.239 --> 00:41:59.599


Because some of them connect to the heart.00:41:59.679 --> 00:42:04.719


So do you have a lot of patients that have had heart issues because of uh toothpaste?00:42:04.960 --> 00:42:13.920


Because of root canals, also because of sleep issues, heart issues, sleep issues are one of the number one causes of heart problems that no one's talking about.00:42:14.000 --> 00:42:22.480


Because if you're not getting enough oxygen when you're sleeping at night, what happens is basically your heart's job is to deliver oxygen to every single cell in the body.00:42:22.639 --> 00:42:31.119


And if there's just not enough to go around, the heart has to pump faster because it has to get more cells to the places because each one of them doesn't have as much oxygen in it.00:42:31.199 --> 00:42:37.920


So there's a huge component of what I what I call health-based dentistry now, where we're looking at this airway piece and the sleep issue.00:42:38.079 --> 00:42:42.639


If anybody has high blood pressure, I can almost guarantee you you have sleep obstruction of some variety.00:42:42.800 --> 00:42:46.239


Something's blocking your getting air at night, maybe even during the day, too.00:42:46.480 --> 00:42:48.000


Yeah, the CBC T scan.00:42:48.079 --> 00:42:48.480


We could tell.00:42:48.559 --> 00:42:52.559


I've done it on me, my kids, and my son has dealt with that since he was a very young age.00:42:52.639 --> 00:42:54.960


So we're, you know, using expanders and whatnot.00:42:55.039 --> 00:43:02.559


But yeah, it's affecting a lot his sleep, his behavior, uh, bed wetting, you know, all signs of not quality air oxygen.00:43:03.119 --> 00:43:03.840


It's huge.00:43:04.000 --> 00:43:04.639


It's huge.00:43:05.119 --> 00:43:13.760


Yeah, and I think for for this information, just to allow patients to know kind of where to look.00:43:13.840 --> 00:43:16.800


Sometimes it's confusing where to look as far as their symptoms.00:43:16.880 --> 00:43:21.360


And oftentimes I think looking in the mouth is kind of the last place that they'll look.00:43:21.519 --> 00:43:31.760


You know, my girlfriend who had now has a stint in her heart, had almost had a heart attack, and goes to the ER, never correlated back to her the infection at Root Canal.00:43:32.000 --> 00:43:42.880


And so I think bringing that awareness is is is going to be that movement that needs to happen and that awareness where people are just know where to go and how find that information.00:43:43.119 --> 00:43:54.400


And I know a lot of people are asking about uh, you know, fluoride, I love your toothpaste, you know, your toothpaste, hydroxyapetite, how it really helps remineralize my teeth.00:43:54.480 --> 00:43:56.480


My son loves it, my kids do too.00:43:56.719 --> 00:44:01.039


And so maybe you can explain a little bit about hydroxyapetite as well.00:44:01.440 --> 00:44:08.159


Yeah, so it's interesting because there's what I like to call kind of some sacred cows in dentistry.00:44:08.400 --> 00:44:11.920


Root canals are one of them, mercury fillings are one of them.00:44:12.239 --> 00:44:14.239


Fluoride is definitely one of them.00:44:14.400 --> 00:44:21.519


I mean, you are in the dental industry, so you know we were told and taught that fluoride is going to fix everything, right?00:44:21.599 --> 00:44:25.280


And if people don't use fluoride, they're gonna have their teeth rot out of their heads.00:44:25.440 --> 00:44:27.679


I mean, that's really what we were taught.00:44:28.000 --> 00:44:30.960


And there's a little bit of truth there.00:44:32.159 --> 00:44:34.159


Fluoride does strengthen teeth.00:44:34.239 --> 00:44:34.639


It does.00:44:34.880 --> 00:44:43.679


The reason fluoride started was clear back in the 1930s and 40s here in the United States, they found that people who had higher levels of naturally occurring fluoride.00:44:43.760 --> 00:44:45.199


So this was typically well water.00:44:45.360 --> 00:44:50.079


People who had well water that had higher levels of fluoride had stronger teeth.00:44:50.320 --> 00:44:52.719


They also had kind of splotchy teeth.00:44:52.800 --> 00:44:53.599


You've seen it, right?00:44:53.760 --> 00:44:54.239


Yes, yes.00:44:54.480 --> 00:44:55.519


You've seen fluorosis.00:44:55.599 --> 00:44:56.079


Like, oh yes.00:44:56.239 --> 00:44:57.440


Sometimes it doesn't look too bad.00:44:57.599 --> 00:44:59.119


It's just kind of like real white spots.00:44:59.199 --> 00:45:01.519


I have a few of them because I my dad was a dentist.00:45:01.599 --> 00:45:03.679


So we were bathed in fluoride, you know?00:45:03.920 --> 00:45:06.559


So uh, so I have some of them, like white spots.00:45:06.639 --> 00:45:09.440


But if they get even more fluoride, it actually is brown.00:45:09.519 --> 00:45:10.559


It's called modeling.00:45:10.800 --> 00:45:11.679


It's quite ugly.00:45:11.760 --> 00:45:15.199


It's kind of brown, light brown, white, splotchy all over the teeth.00:45:15.360 --> 00:45:22.880


Anyway, so they found that people who had higher fluoride had teeth that looked like this, but they didn't get cavities very often.00:45:23.039 --> 00:45:24.719


So they said, well, this is amazing.00:45:24.880 --> 00:45:27.280


And really, I like to assume positive intent.00:45:27.440 --> 00:45:31.039


Like the reason they started mercury fillings was to save some teeth.00:45:31.280 --> 00:45:34.719


The reason they started root canals was to save teeth so people could keep chewing.00:45:34.800 --> 00:45:36.880


Like, there's positive intent behind a lot of this.00:45:37.039 --> 00:45:38.239


The same with fluoride.00:45:38.400 --> 00:45:41.599


The reason they started was to help prevent tooth decay, right?00:45:41.760 --> 00:45:43.039


To stop tooth decay.00:45:43.199 --> 00:45:45.519


And it does, it does work in part.00:45:45.679 --> 00:45:47.519


Fluoride does strengthen teeth.00:45:47.599 --> 00:45:50.159


What it does is it actually changes the crystal.00:45:50.320 --> 00:45:53.599


So teeth are made of something called hydroxyapatite.00:45:53.679 --> 00:45:56.079


You learned this in school, I learned this in school.00:45:56.239 --> 00:45:57.679


It's just a mineral complex.00:45:57.760 --> 00:46:02.000


So a bunch of minerals, magnesium, calcium, phosphorus, all kind of chunked together.00:46:02.079 --> 00:46:05.360


That's what our teeth are made of, that the part that we can see the enamel.00:46:05.679 --> 00:46:11.840


So when fluoride comes in contact with the enamel, what happens is it replaces calcium.00:46:12.000 --> 00:46:17.920


So the calcium comes out and fluoride goes in, and it makes a basically a substance called fluorapetite.00:46:18.079 --> 00:46:18.960


It's really strong.00:46:19.199 --> 00:46:21.599


It's really strong, it's more resistant to tooth decay.00:46:22.239 --> 00:46:23.599


The idea is awesome.00:46:24.400 --> 00:46:32.800


The problem is, is anything that you put in your body is going to act on every single cell, whether you want it to or not or to or not.00:46:32.880 --> 00:46:34.320


This is what we call side effects, right?00:46:34.559 --> 00:46:38.239


People who are like, oh, this medicine was awesome, but the side effects, they were killer.00:46:39.280 --> 00:46:40.800


Well, you can't choose it.00:46:41.119 --> 00:46:47.920


Every single thing you put in your body will act on every single cell, including fluoride.00:46:48.239 --> 00:46:52.719


So fluoride does swap out the calcium, make a harder crystal in the tooth.00:46:52.880 --> 00:46:53.360


Great.00:46:53.679 --> 00:47:06.639


It also changes bone structure because bones are largely made of hydroxyapatite, the same structure, so it swaps out calcium for fluoride, creating a stronger and more brittle crystal.00:47:06.960 --> 00:47:10.239


Do you think a brittle bone is concerning at all?00:47:10.960 --> 00:47:15.280


You know, as a tooth, we have kind of layers and it's okay, but a brittle bone's not.00:47:15.519 --> 00:47:22.400


So there's research showing higher levels of bone fractures in areas that have higher fluoride, it just changes the density of the bone.00:47:22.559 --> 00:47:24.559


So that's kind of strike number one.00:47:24.880 --> 00:47:27.679


Strike number two for me is thyroid.00:47:28.000 --> 00:47:29.679


So fluoride's interesting.00:47:29.840 --> 00:47:38.159


If you look on the periodic table, you know, back from junior high chemistry class, fluoride is right next to iodine and bromine and chlorine.00:47:38.239 --> 00:47:39.360


These are called halides.00:47:39.440 --> 00:47:41.119


So they're all kind of similar, you know.00:47:41.199 --> 00:47:42.880


They're I like to think of them as cousins.00:47:43.039 --> 00:47:47.360


And fluoride is the bigger bully cousin of all of these other molecules.00:47:47.679 --> 00:47:51.679


Thyroid hormone requires iodine to activate.00:47:51.840 --> 00:47:54.320


So you can have hormone, but it's not active yet.00:47:54.480 --> 00:47:56.800


It requires iodine to bind to activate it.00:47:57.280 --> 00:47:59.039


Well, fluoride will also bind.00:47:59.679 --> 00:48:02.880


But if it's bound with fluoride, you can't actually use it.00:48:03.199 --> 00:48:05.280


So you go get a blood test, you're like, I am so tired.00:48:05.360 --> 00:48:06.639


Why am I dragging all the time?00:48:06.719 --> 00:48:07.599


I can't figure this out.00:48:07.679 --> 00:48:10.400


You get a blood test and they come back and they say, it's fine.00:48:10.639 --> 00:48:13.760


You have plenty of thyroid hormone, even active thyroid hormone.00:48:13.920 --> 00:48:15.599


Why do I feel so lousy then?00:48:15.840 --> 00:48:20.000


Because it's bound by fluoride, not by iodine, and your body can't use it.00:48:20.159 --> 00:48:27.599


In fact, in the 1970s, they used to give fluoride as a treatment for people who had hyperactive thyroids.00:48:27.679 --> 00:48:30.960


It's been known since the 70s that this decreases thyroid function.00:48:31.199 --> 00:48:33.679


Have you ever known anyone who has low thyroid function?00:48:33.840 --> 00:48:34.559


Oh, yes.00:48:35.199 --> 00:48:36.000


Including me.00:48:36.639 --> 00:48:36.880


Exactly.00:48:37.360 --> 00:48:38.480


But that's what I was diagnosed with.00:48:38.559 --> 00:48:41.679


Now I know is adrenal fatigue and all the other things, but yeah.00:48:42.079 --> 00:48:42.400


Exactly.00:48:42.639 --> 00:48:43.360


But it's all related.00:48:43.440 --> 00:48:51.519


And adrenal fatigue is related as well because basically your thyroid and your adrenals are kind of like two horses pull on the same cart, like our energy cart.00:48:51.679 --> 00:48:58.079


And if the thyroid gives out, well, then the adrenal horse has to pick up more jobs and then it gives out.00:48:58.239 --> 00:49:06.880


So a lot of times thyroid function or thyroid decrease in function is the precursor to a lot of the other energy issues with adrenals and everything else.00:49:07.039 --> 00:49:10.400


So fluoride 100% correlated to low thyroid function.00:49:10.480 --> 00:49:11.280


So that's strike two.00:49:11.599 --> 00:49:13.599


Strike three came in January for me.00:49:13.760 --> 00:49:25.519


There was a brand new study, January 2025, showing a direct correlation, higher fluoride levels, and moms gave lower IQ in their children, particularly male children.00:49:25.920 --> 00:49:30.639


So, okay, the idea was to eradicate tooth decay.00:49:30.880 --> 00:49:31.599


Did it work?00:49:31.840 --> 00:49:35.280


Has anyone had a cavity since 1940?00:49:36.480 --> 00:49:37.519


Oh yeah.00:49:37.760 --> 00:49:38.320


Oh yeah.00:49:38.480 --> 00:49:38.880


Oh yeah.00:49:39.119 --> 00:49:41.599


So the idea was to eradicate tooth decay.00:49:41.679 --> 00:49:42.639


It didn't work.00:49:42.880 --> 00:49:44.079


And at what cost?00:49:44.639 --> 00:49:48.800


Our bones, our thyroid, our IQ levels.00:49:48.960 --> 00:49:50.639


There's more I could even go on.00:49:50.960 --> 00:49:52.800


Basically, all I needed was three strikes.00:49:52.960 --> 00:49:56.239


So we said And now fluoride is not in our drinking water.00:49:56.400 --> 00:49:58.159


It's you know it's everywhere.00:49:58.400 --> 00:50:03.039


So it's it's in the water, it's in the toothpaste, it's in the hygienist.00:50:03.199 --> 00:50:08.000


We I I oh you always end your appointment with fluoride and even uh go home with my kids.00:50:08.079 --> 00:50:10.159


Oh, I let's get this mouth, let's do this.00:50:10.239 --> 00:50:13.119


And now I'm like, oh my gosh, you know, what have I done?00:50:13.280 --> 00:50:19.599


And now that you're talking, I'm like, oh yeah, my daughter, you know, she does have, you know, the fluoride that stands on her front teeth.00:50:19.679 --> 00:50:22.960


And then oh my gosh, yeah, she was so susceptible to broken bones.00:50:23.039 --> 00:50:25.840


And now it's just like connecting the dots.00:50:26.000 --> 00:50:29.519


So uh it's just crazy when you start putting things together.00:50:29.840 --> 00:50:31.039


Yes, absolutely.00:50:31.199 --> 00:50:33.039


And uh so what do you do instead, right?00:50:33.199 --> 00:50:33.840


That's the next question.00:50:33.920 --> 00:50:36.320


People are like, well, but then I'm gonna want a mouthful of cavities.00:50:36.400 --> 00:50:38.960


If it actually works for the teeth, what do I do instead?00:50:39.199 --> 00:50:43.519


Well, cavities aren't a deficiency of fluoride, that's not what a cavity is.00:50:43.679 --> 00:50:47.039


What happens for a cavity is basically acid gets on your tooth.00:50:47.199 --> 00:50:52.800


Either bacteria in your mouth eat sugar and they create acid, or you put acid there yourself.00:50:52.960 --> 00:50:56.639


Or the third little known one, your body actually needs minerals elsewhere.00:50:56.719 --> 00:51:03.199


So it pulls them from your tooth because it's growing a bone, or you know, you're a 13-year-old kid and you're all of a sudden growing.00:51:03.280 --> 00:51:04.719


Well, where did it get the minerals from?00:51:04.880 --> 00:51:05.679


From your teeth.00:51:05.920 --> 00:51:09.840


So your body needs minerals somewhere, or there's acid on your tooth.00:51:10.079 --> 00:51:14.079


Minerals are pulled out, holes are created, bugs crawl in.00:51:14.400 --> 00:51:18.719


They create more acid, they dissolve more minerals, they crawl in further.00:51:18.960 --> 00:51:22.400


So a cavity is a deficiency of minerals.00:51:22.719 --> 00:51:24.559


Not a fluoride, but of minerals.00:51:24.880 --> 00:51:29.360


So wouldn't it just be cool if we could just put minerals back?00:51:30.480 --> 00:51:34.079


Great news, we can! That's actually what these new products are.00:51:34.239 --> 00:51:36.239


They have hydroxyapetite.00:51:36.320 --> 00:51:37.519


Remember, that's what I told you.00:51:37.599 --> 00:51:38.719


Your teeth are made of.00:51:38.880 --> 00:51:41.920


We actually now have products that have hydroxyapetite.00:51:42.000 --> 00:51:46.239


We can just put back what came out, just plug the holes.00:51:46.480 --> 00:51:53.760


And now we heal cavities, we prevent cavities at the same rate or even better than we did with fluoride.00:51:54.000 --> 00:51:56.239


So why would you ever not use it?00:51:56.480 --> 00:51:59.039


Why would you ever use fluoride if there's all these issues?00:51:59.119 --> 00:52:06.480


And I've been on dental podcasts saying this exact thing, trying to sound super logical here, you know, like it's just logic.00:52:06.639 --> 00:52:12.639


Why would we do this anymore if we have an alternative that works just as well and has no side effects?00:52:12.800 --> 00:52:15.280


Hydroxyapatite, it's minerals.00:52:15.519 --> 00:52:17.599


So if you get a little extra, guess what?00:52:17.920 --> 00:52:18.719


Bonus!00:52:19.199 --> 00:52:20.320


Give me a little extra.00:52:20.880 --> 00:52:24.719


And that's why I love not only are you a dentist, but you went to school to be a naturopath as well.00:52:24.880 --> 00:52:27.599


So you're kind of blending both, which I love.00:52:27.679 --> 00:52:58.159


And I know I love your newest book, uh, Living Well, and how you describe, you know, nutrition and bringing light, because in my book that I was just in editing right now, The Gut God Connection, I say that how sacred your meals have to be and the light you put in, and you're talking about minerals and how nutrient dense that we need to eat on a daily basis for nourishing our teeth to keep them strong and to keep our cells strong, to kill ourselves on a cellular level.00:52:58.239 --> 00:53:03.039


So I love that you blend that as well in your practice and your book.00:53:03.199 --> 00:53:04.159


Your book is phenomenal.00:53:04.320 --> 00:53:06.159


By the way, I have a request.00:53:06.480 --> 00:53:10.079


My family has been visiting from Quebec City and we're French.00:53:10.239 --> 00:53:12.320


So they want your book in French.00:53:12.800 --> 00:53:14.559


I would love my book in French as well.00:53:14.880 --> 00:53:15.599


Tell the publisher.00:53:15.760 --> 00:53:16.480


I will tell the publisher.00:53:16.719 --> 00:53:25.760


Okay, they really want because I was taking screenshots and I was trying to translate it for her, and she was really open because she has met all working outside to explain this.00:53:25.920 --> 00:53:27.679


She was staying with us for two weeks.00:53:27.920 --> 00:53:35.039


And you you have uh recipes and the way you explain it in your book to simplify your detoxing.00:53:35.119 --> 00:53:52.320


You know, I know I'm kind of verging off, but I get really excited about nutrition and overall health and how you do by seasons, you know, you do detox by seasons, different organs, and you have recipes and you explain it, you know, scientifically, but also yeah, giving all the background.00:53:52.400 --> 00:53:54.480


And it just makes sense.00:53:54.719 --> 00:54:02.079


You know, it just makes sense that we need to heal on a cellular level and there's you know what how to do it naturally as well.00:54:02.159 --> 00:54:06.800


You know, there are things, yes, uh you know, you know, there are medicines that are out there that are great.00:54:06.880 --> 00:54:13.519


You know, if you've just, you know, car car accident and you're in so much pain, you're gonna want a painkiller, you know.00:54:13.840 --> 00:54:15.679


But there's there's that balance, right?00:54:15.760 --> 00:54:24.239


We need to kind of bring back a balance, a harmony of using uh what God-given gifts, you know, like the our nutrition comes to that.00:54:24.320 --> 00:54:27.519


Do you now have where you live, like your own kind of garden?00:54:27.599 --> 00:54:29.840


Do you grow most of your your foods?00:54:29.920 --> 00:54:32.079


Or yeah, I have a huge garden, actually.00:54:32.159 --> 00:54:33.599


I'm looking out onto it right now.00:54:33.760 --> 00:54:36.480


It's just getting to the end of the season, and I'm a little sad.00:54:36.559 --> 00:54:40.079


Just yesterday I told my husband, I said the cucumbers are gonna end soon.00:54:40.320 --> 00:54:46.239


I'm a little sad right now, but nutrition is absolutely essential, and it's essential with dental health as well.00:54:46.400 --> 00:54:51.199


People don't realize that oftentimes, you know, everybody just thinks sugar causes a cavity.00:54:51.440 --> 00:54:53.280


Actually, it's just lack of minerals.00:54:53.519 --> 00:55:02.000


And you can heal cavities with minerals on the outside, which are the products we're talking about: tooth powder, toothpaste, anything with hydroxyapetite, and minerals on the inside.00:55:02.159 --> 00:55:08.960


I also have what's called toothbone formula, which is like tooth-specific minerals, vitamin D, vitamin K, so essential.00:55:09.199 --> 00:55:18.639


It's just it, like I said, I just like to present things logically because sometimes we get so caught up in the latest clickbait headline.00:55:18.880 --> 00:55:21.039


And, oh, did you hear this?00:55:21.360 --> 00:55:24.880


But nobody's really understanding the underneath part of it.00:55:24.960 --> 00:55:35.679


Like, for example, um, I have xylitol in my tooth powders, and all of a sudden this article came about about how it was gonna kill gut, you know, your gut if you use any kind of xylitol.00:55:35.760 --> 00:55:41.119


So we got a just this onslaught of questions of people saying, Why do you have xylitol in your toothpowder?00:55:41.199 --> 00:55:43.840


It's gonna kill my gut, and my gut's not gonna function at all anymore.00:55:44.000 --> 00:55:46.480


So I went and dove into the research article.00:55:46.719 --> 00:55:56.480


What I found is that the amount of xylitol they were using, actually, I have a toothpower right here, the amount of xylitol they were using in the research article was equal to 14 of these jars.00:55:57.039 --> 00:56:08.400


So you would have to eat, eat, literally eat, just consume 14 of these jars per day to get the amount of xylitol that they were talking about in the article that was leading to gut function issues.00:56:08.719 --> 00:56:18.400


So that's the kind of problem with our world today, with these, you know, just clickbait headlines and everybody just pulling one sentence out of research articles.00:56:18.559 --> 00:56:22.159


That's why I just try to bring it down to let's just talk about reality here.00:56:22.400 --> 00:56:29.440


Let's just talk about the way the body works and about how our cells respond in response to different things.00:56:29.679 --> 00:56:33.599


Because when we understand it that way, we don't need the clickbait headline.00:56:33.679 --> 00:56:40.800


We just get it and we just almost intrinsically know what we need to do because our bodies are built to heal themselves.00:56:40.880 --> 00:56:42.559


This is one of my favorite things to say.00:56:42.800 --> 00:56:48.719


So um, if you if you have a cut finger, you might put a band-aid on it, right?00:56:49.280 --> 00:56:52.000


Might put a band-aid on it, but does the band-aid actually heal you?00:56:53.760 --> 00:56:54.480


No, right?00:56:54.719 --> 00:57:00.960


My granddaughter thinks it does, so I won't tell her any differently, but no, the band-aid doesn't actually heal a finger.00:57:01.440 --> 00:57:10.639


What heals the finger is your cells have to come together, like your skin cells literally have to come together and knit themselves back together again so your skin doesn't pull apart.00:57:11.039 --> 00:57:12.320


You know what the amazing thing is?00:57:12.880 --> 00:57:14.400


You didn't have to tell it to do it.00:57:15.280 --> 00:57:17.840


Like it knew how to do it all on its own.00:57:18.320 --> 00:57:20.719


Our bodies are absolutely miraculous.00:57:20.880 --> 00:57:24.159


They have everything in them to stay well.00:57:24.639 --> 00:57:28.719


Our job is just to give ourselves what they need to do their job.00:57:28.800 --> 00:57:31.760


And that's partly what my one of the things in the book is is an assessment.00:57:31.840 --> 00:57:34.559


I call it a cell translator, like a symptom translator.00:57:34.719 --> 00:57:38.559


It translates what are your cells saying into what should I do about it?00:57:38.719 --> 00:57:46.320


But that's really a key thing that I really want people, you know, kind of want to bring home at the end is just your body has the ability to stay well.00:57:46.480 --> 00:57:50.239


You need to pay attention to it, you need to listen to symptoms for what they are.00:57:50.320 --> 00:57:52.559


You're your cells, they're your cells talking to you.00:57:52.639 --> 00:57:58.960


Even your teeth, if you have tooth decay, if you have cavities, it's your cells saying, hey, listen, you are not giving me enough minerals.00:57:59.119 --> 00:58:00.320


I need more here.00:58:00.639 --> 00:58:06.400


So it's just time that we learn how to listen to what our cells are saying and trust ourselves again.00:58:06.559 --> 00:58:11.440


Trust ourselves, trust nature, trust the, you know, all the things that Mother Earth has given us.00:58:11.519 --> 00:58:13.360


It's all here to help us be well.00:58:13.519 --> 00:58:15.280


We just have kind of forgotten how to use it.00:58:15.440 --> 00:58:20.480


So that's really what my main whole one of my main messages is is let's just re-remember how to use it again.00:58:20.719 --> 00:58:21.840


I absolutely love that.00:58:21.920 --> 00:58:23.760


That's my philosophy as well.00:58:24.000 --> 00:58:26.159


And so I I'm so honored.00:58:26.239 --> 00:58:27.360


How can people follow you?00:58:27.440 --> 00:58:29.360


I love your YouTube page, first of all.00:58:29.519 --> 00:58:31.760


It's um, is it Living Well or is it under your name?00:58:31.920 --> 00:58:32.880


I I forget.00:58:33.199 --> 00:58:34.159


Living Well with Dr.00:58:34.239 --> 00:58:34.559


Michelle.00:58:34.880 --> 00:58:36.000


Okay, Living Well with Dr.00:58:36.079 --> 00:58:36.320


Michelle.00:58:37.199 --> 00:58:38.960


Yep, and that's where all the social channels are.00:58:39.039 --> 00:58:40.559


So just go on there and get stuff for free.00:58:40.719 --> 00:58:42.719


Like there's a whole bunch of free stuff on there.00:58:42.800 --> 00:58:45.519


I uh I'm doing I release a new video every single week.00:58:45.760 --> 00:58:47.360


Just yep, just go check it out.00:58:47.519 --> 00:58:50.639


If you were interested in the book, you can go to livingwellbook.com.00:58:50.719 --> 00:58:52.559


There's a whole bunch of extra bonuses there as well.00:58:52.800 --> 00:58:54.239


Yeah, I bought the cookbook too.00:58:54.480 --> 00:58:56.880


I even bought the Healthy Mouth as well.00:58:57.039 --> 00:59:00.480


You know, so they are fantastic books.00:59:00.639 --> 00:59:10.320


And uh now I'm just honored to be as well an affiliate, only because I'm only gonna be an affiliate to the things that I use personally lose and believe and know the product and uh the heart behind it.00:59:10.480 --> 00:59:18.960


So you can use gratitude as as a code, a 10% discount, because I I'm honored to spread the word and your products and what you're doing.00:59:19.119 --> 00:59:20.639


So I I I thank you.00:59:20.960 --> 00:59:30.400


I thank you, you know, uh what you're doing for the dental community because that uh yeah, I don't want to get any more text messages saying there's another, we lost another dentist.00:59:30.480 --> 00:59:41.280


So bring that awareness and as well for patients, you know, who root cause of you know, maybe brain fog and inflammation, disease, uh to start looking and asking the questions.00:59:41.440 --> 00:59:43.519


So thank you so much for being here today.00:59:43.840 --> 00:59:51.519


And if you know anyone that might, you know, be this podcast might be helpful, pass it along, like and share it.00:59:51.599 --> 00:59:52.639


Uh I'd be honored.00:59:52.719 --> 00:59:54.320


So thank you so much for being on today.00:59:55.360 --> 00:59:55.840


Thank you.

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Michelle Jorgensen

Doctor

Today’s guest is Dr. Michelle Jorgensen, a former traditional dentist turned holistic health pioneer, who helps exhausted, health-conscious people finally feel like themselves again—by starting where health actually begins: your cells. She’s the founder of Living Well with Dr. Michelle and author of the upcoming book by the same name, which reveals how to decode your symptoms and give your body exactly what it needs to heal, thrive, and stay energized—without the fads, overwhelm, or guesswork. If you’re tired of chasing health trends and still not feeling better, this conversation is for you.