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She has a fierce maternal instinct.
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Her children were spiraling with depression, ocd behaviors to panic attacks and they were missing so much school, but she kept trusting her gut.
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This story today, I hope, will change the way you look at your home, your health and your children.
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This could save the way your kids are healing and wondering what's the root cause of their ailment.
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You might feel crazy or you're seeing so many specialists that just keep treating the symptom.
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So stay tuned for Laura Hott's story.
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Thank you very much for being here today.
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Thanks for having me.
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Yes, and I know this is your first podcast and I kind of threw this idea at you because I hadn't seen you in three years.
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I had met you at my very first on this vortex in Sedona and just the connection and how I could see your soul and see kind of where you were at then and we were partnered up.
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We were partnered to stare into each other's eyes.
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For a long time yeah, for a really long time we didn't know each other.
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We didn't know each other connection for sure.
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Yeah, and they're like, okay, we gotta stare each the stranger in the eyes.
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Yeah, and at first it was definitely very awkward you know, because I'm like okay, then you get used to it and yeah, and then it was like this calm and almost I could see your soul and see kind of the pain that you were in.
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Then you know and and probably could see my pain, you know, just hadn't even been a year since I had lost my husband and so much going through.
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And I really think that time was preparing me for um.
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I had no idea what was to come.
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No, no.
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After that, I mean that was like literally right before my life fell apart.
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And that was three years ago, and I honestly, hadn't really seen you since then, until a couple weeks ago.
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Yeah.
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And I remember, you know, three years ago, when you had mentioned your children kind of having some health issues and weren't quite sure what the root cause, and same in your marriage and I ran into you, you know, a couple weeks ago to get my eyebrows microbladed.
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We did your eyebrows.
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I love it and I couldn't, I couldn't believe the story that you shared with me about the root cause your children because it was a similar story to my family.
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So I'd love for you to start telling the audience when you start seeing symptoms for your girls, when that happened, if you could, you know, maybe each individually for those girls yeah.
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so out of my three girls, the, the first two had health issues um years ago and kind of went down a path of figuring out answers.
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My middle was diagnosed with Lyme disease and pandas and it took several doctors to get a diagnosis to figure out what was going on.
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But she just had a lot of random things happening that I knew in my gut these are all correlated somehow.
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But heart issues, gut issues, OCD, bags under her eyes like dark circles under her eyes.
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She was so tired she would just lie around.
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What was the heart?
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Issues Like what was she feeling.
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So she had just had a virus and she kept.
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She was three years old and she kept saying my heart's beeping, and I felt it and it was beating so fast, and so my husband at the time felt it too and he was like, yeah, so I was eight months pregnant with my third, and so I took her to the ER.
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She was diagnosed with SVT supraventricular tachycardia I think I'm saying that right, I'm not sure, but she was told she would be um, she was put on medication, um, and that she would be on it for life and that it would um get worse or that she would need an ablation or be on medication for life.
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So we were waiting for her to get a little bit older to have the ablation.
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She was three years old at that point.
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Yeah, three or four she had the heart and what other symptoms did?
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she have.
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Then Um, so then after that, so she was put on medication and everything after that.
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Then, um, she got mono and that's when she completely changed.
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Um, I thought, oh my gosh, mono is like.
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I mean, obviously I took her to the doctor, she was diagnosed with mono, but months after it's like she was not functioning and I kept thinking, mono is crazy.
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And I had mono in high school.
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I know you can be really tired and um, but after about six months I was like this is not she.
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Just she was so OCD, rage, anxiety, little things.
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It was like walking on eggshells If you poured a little bit too much milk in her cereal or not enough milk, or she could hardly wear any clothes.
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Everything bothered her.
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She had one shirt and all my girls have been sensitive with clothes and sensory issues, but this was like a whole other level, the way it felt on their skin.
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My son had a little bit of that, if I remember, like socks of the too tight or certain things.
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yeah, yeah they were always like that, but this was like she wouldn't wear underwear at all, she wouldn't go.
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We couldn't, I couldn't take her places because she literally couldn't get clothes on and she would just be screaming in her room like and this is my sweet, soft little, kind little like she was never like that, she was never and she would just scream in her room and she would just out of nowhere.
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I hate you and it just wasn't.
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It wasn't her.
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It was like I could see her raging.
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I could see her, not herself.
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So that led me to different doctors, different naturopaths.
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I finally got answers, answers and a diagnosis with looking into pandas, which basically or pants, pandas or pants.
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How long did that take, so that by?
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the time she was seven, so these things started when she was three.
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By the time she was seven, I remember wanting to cry in that doctor's office because he said if you would have had the ablation, we were waiting for her to be eight to have the ablation, so we't done it yet.
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But he said if you would have done it it wouldn't have done anything, because the reason she has heart issues is Lyme disease and, um and sure enough, like doing um a protocol for Lyme disease called the Cowden protocol, um she, and going off gluten and changing her diet and stuff like that, she was off her heart medication and never had to have the ablation and she doesn't have the heart problem anymore which the cardiologist said she would have forever, and so that all was just like a whole crazy time.
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And then after that my oldest was having a lot of health issues and it led me to finding homeopathy, which my middle was doing so much better.
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But there were lasting things with her.
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She had misophonia, which kind of sounds like a weird thing.
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I'm sure some people have this, but it it's just a matter of like how extreme and how much it's affecting your life.
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But she can't it.
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It was like certain sounds, um so, like chewing anything that had to do with eating, like a fork hitting the plate, um, like it was fight or flight.
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She could not, you could not chew gum around her, you couldn't chew anything.
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And that was the more I learned about it, because in the beginning it seemed like just get over it, come on.
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But the more I learned about it it's like telling someone with a headache to get over a headache, like she could not be around those noises, and so that was a lasting thing.
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That didn't go away with the Lyme protocol and stuff, and I just knew there was more that needed to heal her from that, because it was pretty life-altering, like going on road trips and things like that.
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She would be crying if her dad took like a sip of water, like a little sip of water.
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It affected everyone.
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What about your other girls?
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Were they starting to have symptoms?
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Too, your other girls at the time.
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Yeah, other girls?
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Were they starting to have symptoms to your other girls at the time?
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Yeah, so, um, and then.
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So my oldest had struggled with, um, depression and and gut issues, a lot and migraines, and um kind of did different doctors for that?
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Um managed things for a while and then it just it really plummeted at a point where, looking back now I know there was mold in that house we've been in a lot of different houses um, but rage, a lot of rage.
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She would have rage for absolutely no reason and so and I felt horrible because I felt like she was grounded all the time, I felt like she was always in trouble.
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But looking back, I mean, these were things like she couldn't control and your girls missed a lot of school as well, right Due to the health ailments.
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And now you talked about mold.
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So do you feel the mold was in your home from when the girls were really little, because you said it started at three years old?
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Yeah, so back then, so my oldest around when she was maybe 14, she's 19 now.
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So when she was 14, this naturopath that did diagnose my middle with the Lyme disease and pandas also found that my oldest had mold mycotoxins in her labs and he said it doesn't mean it's in the house you're in now it could be from any house that you've lived in and so it stays in your body, cause I know we went through that because we had mold in our home in in Alaska.
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You know, I didn't know that when I lived there, but now that we finally got a diagnosis just in May of this year, it's like, oh, it must have been in our home in Alaska.
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And that's why, when you're sharing that, I feel a lot of our my husband's mental health, my kids.
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Now it's dawning on me that the mold, on top of all the other toxicity, the fear that we were living in, you know, really affected our immune system.
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Yeah, and look, mold is everywhere.
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Mold is in probably eight out of 10 houses.
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So I think it's hard for a lot of people to think that mold can affect anyone this much.
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Because why can it affect some of the family and not?
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Maybe usually it's the dad's, that the husband's that it doesn't affect as much, but sometimes it's a lot of like smaller symptoms with them that they don't even know with, like testosterone or different things that it can affect and mood and stuff like that.
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But it's also a matter of your genetics, so some people can detox that easier.
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But my kids all have.
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Yes, because we all have that MTHFR gene that.
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MTHFR gene mutation, which I learned about.
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Yes, all these things that I wish I had known back then, but I've learned so much now.
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But they don't detox like a normal person, um, and even that is common to have.
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There's different mutations.
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My middle had the worst one, which makes sense.
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She had the worst health issues at a young age, um, and.
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But then my third didn't have any health issues and I was always like, oh, I have one, it's like, she's good, she's healthy, and and actually I would always say that and my, my ex would always say, just wait, something's gonna happen.
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Because, like, it was just like always something with the other two and I'd be like, no, she's fine, she made it to anyways.
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My other two at young ages were, were struggling, and my youngest was, was good until nine years old and then her whole life, hers was the most dramatic and, um, completely stopped her life.
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So what started happening?
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for her.
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Yeah, so, um, so with my other two I found homeopathy and they were doing good.
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There was so much healing with homeopathy, um, after several doctors, so I had already known about that.
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I'd known about pandas and pans.
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Um, so my youngest, she didn't have anxiety, she didn't have gut issues, um, she was, she was a shy kid but you know, not really any health issues, um, but it all changed at Disneyland.
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She had her first panic attack and it was pretty severe.
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She, um, it was after a ride and she was always afraid of rides, and so I think it was just the final straw that it's kind of like your bucket can only hold so much of whatever the load is of toxins, of emotional stress, of trauma, of mold, of all of that.
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And so her bucket was filling up.
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I didn't know she also had had nitrous oxide two days before this happened, which filled up her bucket because she has the MTHFR gene mutation and you can't detox that as well.
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So I didn't know, you're not supposed to have nitrous oxide if you have that.
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So her bucket was filling up and it spilled over from the.
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I mean, the ride was traumatic for her.
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It was just enough trauma to because she was scared it was like a scary ride for her it was, yeah, it was scary, you know it's interesting that you mentioned that, because I feel fear plays a big role in all of this.
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Yes, because I feel fear, let's say okay.
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So I know you had shared with me your marriage.
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You know from early on you went through a lot in your marriage and I'm sure there was times a lot of fear a fear the affairs, a fear of you know, um, what if it would be on my own?
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So living in constant fear also suppresses your immune system and hits your gut.
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You're talking about that bucket.
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I feel that fear bucket got so high to a tipping point.
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That ride was that tipping point of fear.
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You talked about nitrous.
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She was probably fearful going to the dentist, which so many do, and it was that tipping point of the fear that really wrecked habit on her immune system and that was that tipping it just made her crash.
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It was, it was, like I said, the final straw.
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So after that ride we were walking and she said I don't feel real.
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And I was like, oh yeah, it's kind of weird.
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Huh, like like you feel like you're in a movie, like the ride, I'm like I don't know.
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And she kept saying it and she said I don't feel real, I don't feel real.
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And then she jumped in my arms.
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She was nine, she'd never done this before, like leaped in your arms leaped in my arms and she said I'm dying.
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I'm dying, I can't breathe, I can't, and you couldn't talk to her, but she couldn't at that point say what was going on or what was wrong.
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I could see, and then it dawned on me that she was having a panic attack, and what I learned later is she would have a certain anxiety, called depersonalization, where you don't feel real.
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I've never had that before, but I've heard from others that it's like the worst feeling.
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I've never had that before, but I've heard from others that it's like the worst feeling.
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I feel like I've had like glimpses of that of a feeling for like a second, but never where it's lasting like that.
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So she still was having that feeling and then had a panic attack and then after some time, calmed down, but then it happened two more times within that evening and I was like, hey, we're out of here.
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I can't stay in.
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Disneyland and her triggers were like she couldn't be around people, she couldn't be around the noise she couldn't.
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And ever since that day, just over two years ago, she was not the same kid she, I.
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She couldn't be around people at all and she couldn't.
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It just Things got worse and worse.
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She couldn't leave the house, she couldn't get in the car, things made her dizzy.
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She felt really sick a lot.
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She started having tics, certain movements she would put her head like in circular motions all the time, super irritable, could hardly talk to her, she couldn't concentrate and just, and things got so hard that she wasn't able to even be with friends or family.
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Her birthday was a month after that.
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My family wanted to just come by to give her like a gift and she did not want anyone to come over.
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She couldn't be around.
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There was something not right.
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I mean it wasn't something I could talk her through or tell her let's just think about this and it'll get better.
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Like this was so severe that I there was nothing I I knew I wanted to do.
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Eventually, I mean, I took her.
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She wasn't beginning, able to go to the doctor.
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Um, she had labs done one time and they did find, um, certain things, that she was able to get a diagnosis with the pans, but explain to me what is pan?
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because when you mentioned it to me.
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I had no, I had never heard of it yeah and so I'd love for you to explain it.
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I you know so pandas is basically um, so there's a lot.
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It's.
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It's a hard thing because it's not just like a set.
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This happens and they have these symptoms and it's a lot of different symptoms that they can have.
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But basically if they have physical symptoms along with mental symptoms, that a lot of times happen overnight not always.
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My oldest, hers was never like this overnight change, but kind of slowly got worse.
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But my middle was due to Epstein-Barr was the trigger for hers.
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But basically it crosses the blood-brain barrier and the brain becomes so inflamed that they have severe mental issues and those mental issues can be anywhere from depression to OCD to anxiety, panic attacks um, so my youngest to anxiety, panic attacks so my youngest it was these panic attacks, depersonalization, and then she couldn't socialize around people at all.
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So there's a lot of different factors with it.
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Like I was saying, with the toxins, the viral exposures, the terrain, their genetics, their immune system, exposures, the terrain, their genetics, their immune system.
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And then it's usually if they have like a couple of, there's a whole list of psychological symptoms, so I can't remember.
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It's like a certain amount that they have from that and then a certain amount of mental issues and then they'd usually be diagnosed with like, oh, this sounds like pandas.
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So pandas is specifically from strep.
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So if they've had strep and my, my girls had, um, high strep antibodies but they never had strep throat I never, they never, they didn't, they weren't sick.
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And another weird thing that I found out later was my girls never had fevers.
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They were never like very sick kids and never had fevers.
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Well, I know now you want your kids to have fevers every now and then you like maybe twice a year.
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That's a normal thing because it shows their immune system is fighting off.
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So a lot of times that's a sign, not that your kids are going to end up with pandas or pans, but a lot of pandas or pans.
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Kids don't get fevers and a lot of a lot of parents moms are super happy when their kid gets their first fever because they're like they're healing.
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So pans is due to anything else.
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Basically, pandas is specifically brain inflammation.
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It's pediatric autoimmune neuropsychiatric syndrome or something like that.
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I would have to double check actually.
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I can never remember that and I feel with the inflammation in the brain, because I know I had brought Mateus for a brain scan and that's what they had found inflammation in the amygdala, which is also the fear center, the fight and flight, yeah, and if you are around mold or other toxins then it makes your gut more susceptible to that environment.
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Like you said, mold could be anywhere, right?
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So I went down this journey of the pandas and the pans and my kids and I had heard from Facebook groups that mold a lot of times is a factor, but I always brushed that off Like I don't know.
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They got better with homeopathy.
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I didn't look into mold, um, but then two years after the homeopathy, when my youngest had her onset, my oldest relapsed and she was doing great for two years with the homeopathy, um, and she relapsed.
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Everything.
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All her symptoms came back.
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She was super, super depressed like bedridden.
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She had mono bedridden depression, anorexia.
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It's like she's a very passionate, she loves, she has hobbies, she loves ballet, she was doing palm, she loves her friends.
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Nothing mattered anymore.
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It just all changed.
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She loves her friends, nothing mattered anymore, it just all changed.
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So they were both struggling majorly.
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I still didn't think of mold.
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So it just showed itself when our dishwasher broke.
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And when our dishwasher broke we pulled it out and there was mold behind in the whole kitchen island.
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It was black mold that's the thing with mold.
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It's something that's so hidden, or even I know we have done multiple tests in our home and you know, trying to see where it's so hard to to find, you know, and it could be kids, schools, that behind walls and it's you know, air test, it's relative, they have fans on or anything.
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You know it's really hard to find until you really dig in.
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But it does cause so much harm, yeah, mental health, especially depending on where your kids are at, you know, for as far as being able to detox, um, their environments.
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Yeah, so once I found that it, it all made sense why they both were not doing well my middle.
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There was also black mold in my oldest bathroom.
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Um, actually, when I went to, when we um did remediation or we did a whole treatment where they, um, where they spray this dry, uh, what is it?
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I can't vapor stuff.
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Um, it's like a treatment throughout the whole house.
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Almost what is it?
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I can't vapor stuff.
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Um, it's like a treatment throughout the whole house.
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Almost like.
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Is it ozone?
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I've heard you could do like a whole ozone treatment.
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But that I mean, yeah, there's so many different things and it's so hard, I don't even know if it really helped or actually made things worse.
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I would hear here to do I was trying to do whatever I could.
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And then later I'd hear like, oh, that makes it worse, so that, and my kids?
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They?
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I was trying to do whatever I could, and then later I'd hear like, oh, that makes it worse.
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And my kids, they were just struggling, they weren't doing good.
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But I went to take all the vents off to do that treatment and my you never notice my oldest, her vent in her bathroom was completely full of black mold.
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Oh, wow, so anyways it.
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Just I knew then.
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And now when I see people talk about pandas and pans, Because now you've moved right.
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Yeah, moved Well yeah.
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So at that time is when my marriage fell apart for good and I needed to move because of divorce.
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And I look back now and obviously I think everything was happening, because it needed to to get us out of that house in a way that left no option with mold.
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I don't know if I would have been able to convince my ex to move, because I don't think he ever really thought of that as a problem a lot of people don't, even though we found it and they weren't doing well with their health.
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I just don't know if I hadn't.
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Because was he having any symptoms?
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or feeling like it was affecting him.
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He didn't have any health issues.